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Old Wed Sep 03, 2003, 02:04pm
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Last night I had this play happen and I want to make sure I did the right thing. The rec league game ended with the visiting team winning 34-3 so,while hoping I got it right,I did not feel as bad if i blew it.

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R1 on first. BatterRunner hits a slow chopper to SS. He bobbles it trying to throw to 2nd to get the lead runner. He drops the ball and the R1 is now STANDING on 2nd base. The BR has slipped and fell half way to 1B. The SS throws the ball over his 1Bman's head iand the ball goes in the dugout. I sent the runner that was on first to home for his two bases since he had already made 2nd before the throw. I then sent the BR to 2b (giving him 1B and 2B for his two base award. The player-coach for the defensive team was livid saying that he only gets one base. Before I could explain it to him ,he hollers back thatthe BR only got one base (so he thought)to 2B and I explained to him that he got a two base award of first and second. I then explained that the guy on first had already made it to 2B safely before the throw,therefore his two base award was 3rd and home. Was I correct?
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Old Wed Sep 03, 2003, 02:28pm
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Based on this sequence:
"R1 is now STANDING on 2nd base. The BR has slipped and fell half way to 1B. The SS throws the ball "
yes, good show.
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Old Wed Sep 03, 2003, 02:28pm
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As I see it, you are correct, BUT I rarely see the two base award given, and when it is given properly, most coaches bark loudly as in your case!
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Old Wed Sep 03, 2003, 02:29pm
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Was I correct?
Yes. You correctly handled the award for a ball thrown out of play. It is two bases from the position of the runner at the time of the throw. For R1, that was 3rd and home, and for BR, that was 1st and 2nd.
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Old Wed Sep 03, 2003, 02:32pm
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BUT I rarely see the two base award given, ...
Why? Are all your fields fully fenced? Many of the fields around here are not fenced beyond 1st base, so an errant throw into DBT is not that rare.

Just wondering.
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Old Wed Sep 03, 2003, 02:37pm
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Me too.
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And I am also an inquiring mind and I want to know!

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Old Wed Sep 03, 2003, 07:39pm
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You made the right call. I've had that play several times. Sending R1 home often does provoke an argument, though. Many softball players assume the rule is the same as baseball's. In OBR, because F6's throw was the first play by an infielder and the BR had not yet reached 1B, the bases are awarded from the time of the pitch. Therefore, R1 (who started on 1B) would be awarded 3B, not home.

Softball does not recognize the "first play by an infielder" situation.

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Old Wed Sep 03, 2003, 10:53pm
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I would be trying to get a 6 run limit for that league. Brian
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Old Thu Sep 04, 2003, 02:28pm
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I would be trying to get a 6 run limit for that league. Brian
Per game or per inning?
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Old Thu Sep 04, 2003, 04:52pm
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LOL ... per inning , and 10 runs after 4
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