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The question you need to answer to yourself: Did F3 have control of the ball in her hand/glove when she made the tag? If so, then you have an out. In your play, if F3 tagged the runner, and then the ball popped out on the fall, you could judge that F3 never had control of the ball at the time of the tag. It really depends how quickly things took place (tag, contact, fall, ball comes loose). Any discernable time between the tag and when the ball popped out of the glove, I would judge she controlled it during the tag.
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MD, completely agree.
Working a men's FP game with a brick backstop, strike 3 went straight past F2 & ricocheted back to batter's foot, bouncing into the IF, before B/R knew it got past F2. No int. in the OP, B/R was aware of her situation, & got tangled up with the ball as she passed from RH BB, across the plate, into LH BB... Last edited by jmkupka; Tue Jun 24, 2014 at 09:44am. |
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I would say that's enough extra information that I'd rule INT as well.
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Originally Posted by CecilOne View Post Which reminds me, saw this play recently. R running from 1st, fly ball to RF, caught. F9 throws to 1st in time for the tag up out. Tag made, runner's slide carries her into F3, ball comes out when they fall. Out or safe. Quote:
The issue became whether control for the runner tag was sufficient or whether the fielder had to maintain control for the duration of the play (runner's slide carries her into F3, ball comes out when they fall). This was not a case of the fielder trying to throw, IOW not losing it on "the transfer".
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Where it gets tricky is when the ball comes out of the hand or glove very shortly after the tag. If it happens nearly simultaneously, then you could judge that the fielder didn't securely hold the ball at the moment of the tag. But the bigger the gap in time between the tag and the drop, the more convincing it is to state the ball was securely held when the tag took place.
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