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Old Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:28pm
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PONY State tournament this weekend. Already have team A mad at me (apparently their batter should be allowed to accidentally interfere with a D3k, but whatever)...
I'm more interested in this part. What happened there?

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Old Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:11pm
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Dropped 3rd strike, ball bounced forward, got tangled up in B/R's feet & shot to the side a bit as F2 was reaching for it.
A glancing contact might be ignored, however this did interfere with F2's attempt to retrieve it.

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Old Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:17pm
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Dropped 3rd strike, ball bounced forward, got tangled up in B/R's feet & shot to the side a bit as F2 was reaching for it.
A glancing contact might be ignored, however this did interfere with F2's attempt to retrieve it.
Um ... what?
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Old Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:14pm
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Dropped 3rd strike, ball bounced forward, got tangled up in B/R's feet & shot to the side a bit as F2 was reaching for it.
A glancing contact might be ignored, however this did interfere with F2's attempt to retrieve it.
That would not be interference if it were not intentional.

What rule code? Does Pony have it's own?

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Old Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:45pm
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That would not be interference if it were not intentional.

What rule code? Does Pony have it's own?

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The PONY (8.7.h) rule is like the other association, intent is not necessary.
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Old Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:36pm
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The PONY (8.7.h) rule is like the other association, intent is not necessary.
I didn't want to assume. I knew it wasn't part of any code I do use.

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Old Tue Jun 24, 2014, 08:41am
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I didn't want to assume. I knew it wasn't part of any code I do use.

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Which code is that, Rita? Under most softball codes, any batter-runner hindrance with an uncaught third strike is interference, whether intentional or not.

And for what it's worth, I believe OBR 7.09(a) has new expanded language that does not include intent.
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Old Tue Jun 24, 2014, 09:03am
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MD & Rita, accepting your interps almost as often as Irish's, are you still skeptical about my int call?

Irish, am I correct in assuming you agree with my call?

HTBT sure, but assume no intent, and F2 grabbed at thin air because the ball shot off B/Rs foot...

BTW my online 2014 PONY book has it as 9.7.h (not 8.7.h)

thanks all...
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Old Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:03pm
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Which code is that, Rita? Under most softball codes, any batter-runner hindrance with an uncaught third strike is interference, whether intentional or not.

And for what it's worth, I believe OBR 7.09(a) has new expanded language that does not include intent.
Hmmm. I just checked high school softball and no intent required.

OBR 7.09a expanded language includes intent if it bounces off the catcher or umpire.

Doesn't seem right to penalize the batter for unintentionally interfering after the defense has erred. Especially in such tight quarters.


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Old Mon Jun 23, 2014, 07:20pm
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Dropped 3rd strike, ball bounced forward, got tangled up in B/R's feet & shot to the side a bit as F2 was reaching for it.
A glancing contact might be ignored, however this did interfere with F2's attempt to retrieve it.
Found the PONY softball rule code. 8-3

Not interference.

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