Catch and Carry

[tcannizzo]

This weekend at the College Club World Series, in Columbus, GA we had exactly that - tarp rollers down the left field fence.

Ground rules were a player can touch the tarp with any part of the body except the foot. Don't know if this is universal, or just at this complex, because the explanation offered was that they didn't want metal cleats tearing up the tarp.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

This weekend at the College Club World Series, in Columbus, GA we had exactly that - tarp rollers down the left field fence.

Ground rules were a player can touch the tarp with any part of the body except the foot. Don't know if this is universal, or just at this complex, because the explanation offered was that they didn't want metal cleats tearing up the tarp.

That's correct and that's the purpose of the "tarp" rule. They don't want players stepping on the tarp with cleats.

[EsqUmp]

Catch.

Defender didn't "enter" dead ball territory.

Ball is live.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

Catch.

Defender didn't "enter" dead ball territory.

Ball is live.

I would agree on this. There is a section in the rulebook, which is out in my car, that covers the collapsible fence rules. Since she never completely crossed the fence and was still on the fence, this would be a live ball. Think of it this way. Had she caught the ball over an upright fence, kept a foot on the ground, and leaned over the fence touching with one or both hands what would the call be. The ruling is the same, since she never left live ball territory, she is still in live ball territory.

IIRC their is a casebook play, while not the same, it does cover the collapsible fence rule. A player runs back, pushes on the fence so it is on the ground, stands on it, and makes the catch? The ruling is that it is a catch. In the OP, the player never left contact with the fence, she is still in live ball territory.

[agr8zebra]

The ball completely was used the bal to remove herself from the fence, the being completely in dead ball , non-live ball territiry

The was in dead ball territory

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

The ball completely was used the bal to remove herself from the fence, the being completely in dead ball , non-live ball territiry

The was in dead ball territory

Was the ball in possession of the player? Was the player on the fence? If the player was still on the collapsed fence (even if part of her was not), it is still a live ball territory situation.

Even if the player lands and only her toes are still on the collapsible fence, she has not entered DB territory, thus it is a live ball.

[UmpireErnie]

Originally Posted by agr8zebra

The ball completely was used the bal to remove herself from the fence, the being completely in dead ball...

Actually looks like the fielders glove and forearm touch dead ball territory.

NFHS 5-1-1i note d. says "If a fielder contacts dead-ball territory with any part of the body except the foot, she is considered to be out of play." So, yes, should be catch and carry. Having said that no umpire is stationed where the video is filmed. The umpires on the field may not have been able to see contact beyond the fence.

[UmpireErnie]

I'm guessing the runner on 1B hadn't tagged up on the fly ball?

[UmpireErnie]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

iirc their is a casebook play, while not the same, it does cover the collapsible fence rule.

iirc?

[agr8zebra]

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