NFHS unreported defensive change

[roadking]

Can you tell me the rules reference for only a defensive change? To my recollection NF all changes had to be reported. I'm just trying to make sure I'm not mixing my rule sets. Thx

[RKBUmp]

Cant cite a rule that doesnt exist. Defensive position changes are not required to be reported. Dont have my rule book with me to cite the number, the only thing the book says is that all substitutions must be reported to the plate umpire. NCAA requires all defensive changes to be reported.

[Moosie74]

3-3-2 covers who needs to be recorded. DP/Flex and pitcher/catcher must be known as there are restrictions on them.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Moosie74

3-3-2 covers who needs to be recorded. DP/Flex and pitcher/catcher must be known as there are restrictions on them.

DP must be reported if playing defense for the FLEX
FLEX must be reported if batting for the DP

Courtesy runner must be reported when they are running for the pitcher or catcher.

It is not required to report a defensive change involving the pitcher or catcher, however, a smart coach that is using a courtesy runner will make sure the PU knows that there is a new pitcher or catcher.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Andy

It is not required to report a defensive change involving the pitcher or catcher, however, a smart coach that is using a courtesy runner will make sure the PU knows that there is a new pitcher or catcher.

And a savvy PU will know when there is a new pitcher or catcher as soon as they come out to warm up and begin play. Before that happens, there cannot be a courtesy runner for them.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Manny A

And a savvy PU will know when there is a new pitcher or catcher as soon as they come out to warm up and begin play. Before that happens, there cannot be a courtesy runner for them.

Of course, you are absolutely correct.

It has been my experience, however, that there are far more non-savvy umpires than there are savvy ones......

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by Andy

Of course, you are absolutely correct.

It has been my experience, however, that there are far more non-savvy umpires than there are savvy ones......

Which brings up an interesting question (interesting to me, anyway).

Im one of those guys that keeps track of who is pitching and who is catching, which substitutes are available to run, who they have for and who is no longer available to run.
So far I have been "savvy" enough to not have a problem. When I see a new f1 or f2,
I will confirm it with both coaches.

But the question is, if for some reason I wasn't "savy" enough and did not notice a change (all those f2s look alike from the back) and in the next half inning, they want to use a CR what happens?
I look at my line up card and see a different player listed as f2.
Am I supposed to take the coaches word for it (that goes against my religion :-) )?
What about the other coach who never noticed the change?

Just wondering... if it happens ill let you know?

[roadking]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

Cant cite a rule that doesnt exist. Defensive position changes are not required to be reported. Dont have my rule book with me to cite the number, the only thing the book says is that all substitutions must be reported to the plate umpire. NCAA requires all defensive changes to be reported.

Thanks I found rules 2014 publication on the NFHS and did see "all substitutions must be reported" and nothing on defensive changes.