Obstruction question

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

That isn't what the NSA rule is. NSA is the same as other softball, you place the runner on the base they would have reached had the OBS not occurred. That isn't always the next base.

The OP doesn't indicate which base the runner was trying to reach when obstructed, just that the runner made it back to 3B safely. The runner may have been trying for home when obstructed and simply turned around. In this case, home would be the proper award to negate the obstruction.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

The OP doesn't indicate which base the runner was trying to reach when obstructed, just that the runner made it back to 3B safely. The runner may have been trying for home when obstructed and simply turned around. In this case, home would be the proper award to negate the obstruction.

I agree and noted such in my original response, but even then, by killing the play you deny the offended team from advancing, maybe even scoring runs on the play.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I agree and noted such in my original response, but even then, by killing the play you deny the offended team from advancing, maybe even scoring runs on the play.

In Fed, obstruction is a delayed dead ball. In ASA and/or NSA, is obstruction an immediate dead ball if a play is being made on a runner?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

In Fed, obstruction is a delayed dead ball. In ASA and/or NSA, is obstruction an immediate dead ball if a play is being made on a runner?

Not exactly - in ASA it's immediately dead if they tag out the obstructed runner - not just if a play is made on them.

[nopachunts]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Not exactly - in ASA it's immediately dead if they tag out the obstructed runner - not just if a play is made on them.

So what is it in NSA. Have never used NSA rules so I am at a loss on this one. I'm see what Irish is saying where killing the ball too quickly can cause harm to the offended team.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

So what is it in NSA. Have never used NSA rules so I am at a loss on this one. I'm see what Irish is saying where killing the ball too quickly can cause harm to the offended team.

NSA has an exception whereby they kill the ball (poor ball...) if obstruction occurs during a rundown.

As Mike said, it could potentially harm the offense by not allowing them to advance on a potential error. But also, how often do we see a trailing runner take an extra base (or two!) during a rundown - killing the ball early when the defense has not been able to tag out the runner even after obstructing them is not fair to the offense at all.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

NSA has an exception whereby they kill the ball (poor ball...) if obstruction occurs during a rundown.
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NSA kills the ball anytime the obstructed runner it the one on which the defense is making a play. The rundown exception just notes they will always get the lead base whether or not they would have attained it.

Now, my next question is, what defines a rundown?

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by nopachunts

The OP doesn't indicate which base the runner was trying to reach when obstructed, just that the runner made it back to 3B safely. The runner may have been trying for home when obstructed and simply turned around. In this case, home would be the proper award to negate the obstruction.

Thank you.

At the very least, I'm not alone in thinking there should have been more detail to the question.