Fed question#1, choke up device

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Not altered. Illegal, same as if the grip was torn and needs to be rewrapped. It is correctable, so not a change in structure. Remove the choke-up device, and it can become legal again; an altered bat can never become legal again.

Luckily, that's about what I thought earlier, without being sure that the device could be removed without damage.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Luckily, that's about what I thought earlier, without being sure that the device could be removed without damage.

Well, if it can't be removed without damage, then the bat has been altered, right?

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Well, if it can't be removed without damage, then the bat has been altered, right?

If that were the case. But as above, all those we know about are clip-ons or slip-ons; completely removable without permanent structure change/damage.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

If that were the case. But as above, all those we know about are clip-ons or slip-ons; completely removable without permanent structure change/damage.

I was thinking the conversation would go something like this:

U: Batter, you can't have that device on your bat. Take it off if you want to use that bat.
B: But, it won't come off.
U: OK. Now you're out for coming to the plate with an altered bat.

[Crabby_Bob]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I was thinking the conversation would go something like this:

U: Batter, you can't have that device on your bat. Take it off if you want to use that bat.
B: But, it won't come off.
U: OK. Now you're out for coming to the plate with an altered bat.

Is that all?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I was thinking the conversation would go something like this:

U: Batter, you can't have that device on your bat. Take it off if you want to use that bat.
B: But, it won't come off.
U: OK. Now you're out for coming to the plate with an altered bat.

Then is should have been noticed when? Come on, you all know the answer.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I was thinking the conversation would go something like this:

U: Batter, you can't have that device on your bat. Take it off if you want to use that bat.
B: But, it won't come off.
U: OK. Now you're out for coming to the plate with an altered bat.

You mean like the earrings that can't come out, either? What is it, nailed, soldered, or super-glued to the bat? THAT would be an altered bat; the average youth player might think if it were taped on that it won't come off.

Hoping you would have the start of that conversation with the coach in the pregame bat check, actually. That's when you would/should see it for the first time.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Then is should have been noticed when? Come on, you all know the answer.

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

You mean like the earrings that can't come out, either? What is it, nailed, soldered, or super-glued to the bat? THAT would be an altered bat; the average youth player might think if it were taped on that it won't come off.

Hoping you would have the start of that conversation with the coach in the pregame bat check, actually. That's when you would/should see it for the first time.

Yeah. There is NEVER a bat deep in a bag that somehow isn't presented for inspection!

Add in the talking with the coach... , you guys just blow right past the smilies...