Team throws at PU

[bniu]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

I saw the coach approach from the 3rd base side, but at no time did I see the PU call time. Can't tell if he was asked for time or not.

And once players returned to their positions ready to resume play, I didn't see PU make a beconing motion to the pitcher putting the ball in play again.

I don't know how many of those things would be considered mandatory or perhaps the informality of the game lent it to be that way.

Depending on the situation, there's been plenty of times I've simply acknowledged a coach with a simple hand gesture or a simple nod when they ask for time and then they go do their meeting.

If a team stoops low enough to plunk me like that, coach, catcher and pitcher are gone. Doesn't matter if the coach knew about it or not, coach is fully responsible for the conduct of their players, and some bush league stuff like that is going to get them tossed. I've got no problems giving a catcher feedback on a pitch if they ask for it. Once I had a catcher frame a pitch off the plate and when she asked what was wrong with it, I told her she wasn't even framing it in the strike zone. Got a nice chuckle out of her. I'm also known for having a pretty liberal strike zone so few pitchers get pissed off at me, except when they're batting (but at least they know to expect the big zone...)

[teebob21]

It's already been said, but if I'm on the dish for this one, I'm tossing pitcher, catcher, and head coach. Next stop is an immediate chat with the tournament director and my UIC/tourney assigner.

I've been thrown *at* in a men's Class C FP game, but it was outside and two feet over my head. Completely different world, though, the men's game.

The mechanics are critiquable (a word?) but not absolutely terrible. There are only two pitches on the short video, but he locked in decently and was in the slot. Yes, the indicator is in the right-hand, but as is pointed out, there looks like there is something wrong with his left. I think his main mistake was allowing the defensive conference to go on as long as it did. I would have been moseying out to the mound long before that broke up.

If the coach is so hot under the collar that he's telling the pitcher to drill me, he's probably pissed enough to say a Magic Word when I break up his fiesta on the mound. Plus, if I overhear the instructions to hit me en route to the mound, he's definitely gone. Catcher might think twice about bailing out on me after I just cranked the head coach.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by teebob21

...I've been thrown *at* in a men's Class C FP game, but it was outside and two feet over my head. Completely different world, though, the men's game....

While I agree that the Men's game is a different animal, are you saying that you would not eject the pitcher and catcher (at minimum) if this same scenario played out in a Men's game?

[teebob21]

Originally Posted by Andy

While I agree that the Men's game is a different animal, are you saying that you would not eject the pitcher and catcher (at minimum) if this same scenario played out in a Men's game?

If the scenario in the video played out in the men's game and I get hit (or it's remotely close), I'm ejecting F1 and probably F2. If F2 bails like in this video, I'm tossing both of them. Of course; no question.

Like all things in umpiring, circumstances dictate my response. The example I gave of being thrown at was a much less malicious act. It was a demonstration that he still had "some control" on his pitches after I quit giving him a rise ball strike that had crept up to the nipples...I was going to include that in my original response, but deleted it to stay on topic.