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Old Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:03pm
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WS #1 Call Corrected

Does the SS name ring a bell?

Check out the play
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Old Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:08pm
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 06:20am
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Does the SS name ring a bell?

Check out the play
Yes. He plays for the Cardinals.
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:45am
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Yes. He plays for the Cardinals.
That's it? I don't follow baseball and immediately recognized his name from the big flair up last year in ATL.
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:44pm
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The umpire claims he never saw the ball come out. No wonder, something can't come out of something it never went into. Dave
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 03:52pm
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The umpire claims he never saw the ball come out. No wonder, something can't come out of something it never went into. Dave
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Old Thu Oct 24, 2013, 04:11pm
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The umpire, Dana Dumuth, was looking at the base, it appears to me, and the arm motion of the SS fooled him.
OTL on ESPN just had a very good story on this and the proposed review system they will be voting on this winter. They had Don Denkinger and Jim McKeon talking about a play Doenkinger made against S L in the W S several years ago.

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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 11:46am
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The umpire, Dana Dumuth, was looking at the base, it appears to me, and the arm motion of the SS fooled him.
OTL on ESPN just had a very good story on this and the proposed review system they will be voting on this winter. They had Don Denkinger and Jim McKeon talking about a play Doenkinger made against S L in the W S several years ago.

None of us can throw stones.
Agreed that none of us can throw stones as I'm sure we all have similar moments to this on the ball field.

But we can take the opportunity to learn from these to help our game.

Personally, I think that he was too close to the play and his focus went away from the ball into the glove to the foot on the base. If he was a bit further back, peripheral vision may have picked up that the ball wasn't cleanly caught.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 12:43pm
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agreed that none of us can throw stones as i'm sure we all have similar moments to this on the ball field.

But we can take the opportunity to learn from these to help our game.

Personally, i think that he was too close to the play and his focus went away from the ball into the glove to the foot on the base. If he was a bit further back, peripheral vision may have picked up that the ball wasn't cleanly caught.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:19pm
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Not justifying not watching the ball, but you would expect a MLB SS to make a simple play like that.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:41pm
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Not justifying not watching the ball, but you would expect a MLB SS to make a simple play like that.
There are a lot of things I would expect MLB players to do, like when a pitcher signals that he is going to catch a pop-up. But these guys are human and will occasionally make even the easiest of plays look impossible.
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Old Fri Oct 25, 2013, 10:32pm
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Dumuth screwed the Pooch on that call. The crew got together for damage control to keep it from looking like a rape.

End result, they got it right.
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Old Sat Oct 26, 2013, 09:28am
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There are a lot of things I would expect MLB players to do, like when a pitcher signals that he is going to catch a pop-up. But these guys are human and will occasionally make even the easiest of plays look impossible.
Michael, the routine things can be called by a monkey in right field. It is the non-routine plays and calls that tests an umpire's timing and ability to get it right.
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Old Sat Oct 26, 2013, 08:37pm
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There are a lot of things I would expect MLB players to do, like when a pitcher signals that he is going to catch a pop-up. But these guys are human and will occasionally make even the easiest of plays look impossible.
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Michael, the routine things can be called by a monkey in right field. It is the non-routine plays and calls that tests an umpire's timing and ability to get it right.
IRISHMAFIA, I agree 100% with your monkey analogy. It was good to see that when one umpire's timing and ability to get it right failed, that working together with the umpire crew, the error was corrected.
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