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IRISHMAFIA Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:03pm

WS #1 Call Corrected
 
Does the SS name ring a bell?

Check out the play

APG Wed Oct 23, 2013 10:08pm

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3730/1...d7e18099_o.gif

EsqUmp Thu Oct 24, 2013 06:20am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 908557)
Does the SS name ring a bell?

Check out the play

Yes. He plays for the Cardinals.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:45am

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Originally Posted by EsqUmp (Post 908597)
Yes. He plays for the Cardinals.

That's it? I don't follow baseball and immediately recognized his name from the big flair up last year in ATL.

shipwreck Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:44pm

The umpire claims he never saw the ball come out. No wonder, something can't come out of something it never went into. Dave

CecilOne Thu Oct 24, 2013 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by shipwreck (Post 908662)
The umpire claims he never saw the ball come out. No wonder, something can't come out of something it never went into. Dave

All four elements ! ! :eek:

bluejay Thu Oct 24, 2013 04:11pm

Otl
 
The umpire, Dana Dumuth, was looking at the base, it appears to me, and the arm motion of the SS fooled him.
OTL on ESPN just had a very good story on this and the proposed review system they will be voting on this winter. They had Don Denkinger and Jim McKeon talking about a play Doenkinger made against S L in the W S several years ago.

None of us can throw stones.

Andy Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:46am

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Originally Posted by bluejay (Post 908714)
The umpire, Dana Dumuth, was looking at the base, it appears to me, and the arm motion of the SS fooled him.
OTL on ESPN just had a very good story on this and the proposed review system they will be voting on this winter. They had Don Denkinger and Jim McKeon talking about a play Doenkinger made against S L in the W S several years ago.

None of us can throw stones.

Agreed that none of us can throw stones as I'm sure we all have similar moments to this on the ball field.

But we can take the opportunity to learn from these to help our game.

Personally, I think that he was too close to the play and his focus went away from the ball into the glove to the foot on the base. If he was a bit further back, peripheral vision may have picked up that the ball wasn't cleanly caught.

HugoTafurst Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by andy (Post 908827)
agreed that none of us can throw stones as i'm sure we all have similar moments to this on the ball field.

But we can take the opportunity to learn from these to help our game.

Personally, i think that he was too close to the play and his focus went away from the ball into the glove to the foot on the base. If he was a bit further back, peripheral vision may have picked up that the ball wasn't cleanly caught.

+1

nopachunts Fri Oct 25, 2013 03:19pm

Not justifying not watching the ball, but you would expect a MLB SS to make a simple play like that.

Manny A Fri Oct 25, 2013 03:41pm

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Originally Posted by nopachunts (Post 908886)
Not justifying not watching the ball, but you would expect a MLB SS to make a simple play like that.

There are a lot of things I would expect MLB players to do, like when a pitcher signals that he is going to catch a pop-up. But these guys are human and will occasionally make even the easiest of plays look impossible.

MichaelVA2000 Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:32pm

Dumuth screwed the Pooch on that call. The crew got together for damage control to keep it from looking like a rape.

End result, they got it right.

IRISHMAFIA Sat Oct 26, 2013 09:28am

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 908892)
There are a lot of things I would expect MLB players to do, like when a pitcher signals that he is going to catch a pop-up. But these guys are human and will occasionally make even the easiest of plays look impossible.

Michael, the routine things can be called by a monkey in right field. It is the non-routine plays and calls that tests an umpire's timing and ability to get it right.

MichaelVA2000 Sat Oct 26, 2013 08:37pm

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 908892)
There are a lot of things I would expect MLB players to do, like when a pitcher signals that he is going to catch a pop-up. But these guys are human and will occasionally make even the easiest of plays look impossible.

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 908942)
Michael, the routine things can be called by a monkey in right field. It is the non-routine plays and calls that tests an umpire's timing and ability to get it right.

IRISHMAFIA, I agree 100% with your monkey analogy. It was good to see that when one umpire's timing and ability to get it right failed, that working together with the umpire crew, the error was corrected.


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