U3 Button-Hook

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by shagpal

Oh, I am not suggesting he should not follow orders.
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I am suggesting we can be thinking umpires and consider better mechanics. Most that do have moved on.
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So he will do as he's told, or else he won't work, but he had to come here to ask how to do it when it could a been explained right on the spot.

$400 to be taught how to do it is BS.

Wow, you sure do make some wild-ass assumptions about what I will and won't do. Do you even know me?

I asked what I thought was a simple question: How does U3 execute the button-hook as required by ASA mechanics? I got the answer. What I'm going to do or not do, whether I'm a robot or a thinking umpire, or how I spend $400 adds nothing to the discussion.

[okla21fan]

You get a 'note' from her about 9 or so times a year.

[shagpal]

DA?

Common, tell me, don't play me like that.

Originally Posted by okla21fan

You get a 'note' from her about 9 or so times a year.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by shagpal

DA?

Common, tell me, don't play me like that.

He did.

[shagpal]

Tells me so much.

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

He did.

[ASA Ump MN]

It was explained right here and you got it for free. What's missing?

10 live real Tournament games all in the 3 man system while being critiqued by instructors like Kevin Ryan, Larry Montgomery, Riz, and several other outstanding ASA umpires.
Throw in all the food you could eat, video of said games, great camaraderie and hospitality to boot.

Makes for an informitive and extremly fun time!

To each is own I guess but I'm glad I did it as it would have took years to get that kind of hands on instruction and game action in the 3-man system....

[shagpal]

You paid for that vs getting paid, right?

Originally Posted by ASA Ump MN

10 live real Tournament games all in the 3 man system while being critiqued by instructors like Kevin Ryan, Larry Montgomery, Riz, and several other outstanding ASA umpires.
Throw in all the food you could eat, video of said games, great camaraderie and hospitality to boot.

Makes for an informitive and extremly fun time!

To each is own I guess but I'm glad I did it as it would have took years to get that kind of hands on instruction and game action in the 3-man system....

[shagpal]

I am not assuming about YOU, but I am assuming what will happen if you don't do as you are told at an ASA event, you will be sent home. So either you will do as told and work, or you won't and you won't work.

You suggested if you spend the $400 for the advanced FP camp, you will be shown correctly how to button hook in 3-man. It was explained right here and you got it for free. What's missing?

Originally Posted by Manny A

Wow, you sure do make some wild-ass assumptions about what I will and won't do. Do you even know me?

I asked what I thought was a simple question: How does U3 execute the button-hook as required by ASA mechanics? I got the answer. What I'm going to do or not do, whether I'm a robot or a thinking umpire, or how I spend $400 adds nothing to the discussion.

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by shagpal

(snip) So either you will do as told and work, or you won't and you won't work.

(snip)

Funny, that's how it is a my straight job, too.

[shagpal]

Or find a better boss and job. Not everyone can, but we all wish we could.

Luckily we are independent contractors, and free will wins.

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

Funny, that's how it is a my straight job, too.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by shagpal

Luckily we are independent contractors, and free will wins.

Schedulers are independent as well, free to schedule those who will perform as they are asked, as opposed to simply making stuff as they go and running around where they want. I grant that the umpire population is sometimes not so great that this sort of umpire never works at all ... but those who work at their craft, strive to get better, and continue to learn will get more (and better) games in the long run.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by shagpal

You suggested if you spend the $400 for the advanced FP camp, you will be shown correctly how to button hook in 3-man. It was explained right here and you got it for free. What's missing?

You're making the ridiculous assumption that I would spend $400 to go to an advanced camp for the sole purpose of learning how to button hook in 3-man.

[shagpal]

I make no assumptions, you wrote it. Perhaps in jest. Like I said, I am making NO assumptions.

But no, I don't think you would pay that much to learn just how to button hook. I sense you might not comprehend why you MUST button hook, since you didn't at first and seem natural not to do so, but was later corrected by your training UIC to do so regardless on a clean base hit. It would make more sense to spend money to learn if to button hook, or why and when it makes sense to do it.

Here is what I can assure you. If you pay $400 to goto that advanced camp, they will tell you you must button hook on a clean base it to the outfield, period and without exception. Inside outside theory, period.

Originally Posted by Manny A

You're making the ridiculous assumption that I would spend $400 to go to an advanced camp for the sole purpose of learning how to button hook in 3-man.