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[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Of course, you may always have an issue of the BR not hearing the call or an umpire not making the call in a timely fashion

Yeah, a ball that hits the BR would not give the ump much time to make a call.

OK, now, the reason I started looking for this, timing of the out.

Pardon me if you think I am overthinking or TW'ing.

Without any dead ball out of the BR as above, is the player who hit the IF out:
1 - when the ball is struck, even though the rule is in the BR section
2 - when the IFR is declared (verbal)
3 - when the ball lands or is touched
4 - during the post-game

I have always thought it's number 1, as there is no escape from the out, but now I think I recall a ruling somewhere that says number 3, which might mean the things like:
a - runner struck dead ball overrides
b - the force is on until the ball hits the ground if untouched
c - who knows

ASA first, please.