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Originally Posted by CecilOne
Yeah, a ball that hits the BR would not give the ump much time to make a call.
OK, now, the reason I started looking for this, timing of the out.
Pardon me if you think I am overthinking or TW'ing.
Without any dead ball out of the BR as above, is the player who hit the IF out:
1 - when the ball is struck, even though the rule is in the BR section
2 - when the IFR is declared (verbal)
3 - when the ball lands or is touched
4 - during the post-game  
I have always thought it's number 1, as there is no escape from the out, but now I think I recall a ruling somewhere that says number 3, which might mean the things like:
a - runner struck dead ball overrides
b - the force is on until the ball hits the ground if untouched
c - who knows
ASA first, please. |
How about....
The IF is what it is the moment the umpire deems it so. The effect of the rule is when it is determined to be fair, so I would say you have 1 & 3, it is never "overridden" by anything, striking a runner subsequent action and there is never a force.
BTW, striking the ball is what places it in the BR section since that action is what make the B a BR