[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Yeah, a ball that hits the BR would not give the ump much time to make a call.

OK, now, the reason I started looking for this, timing of the out.

Pardon me if you think I am overthinking or TW'ing.

Without any dead ball out of the BR as above, is the player who hit the IF out:
1 - when the ball is struck, even though the rule is in the BR section
2 - when the IFR is declared (verbal)
3 - when the ball lands or is touched
4 - during the post-game

I have always thought it's number 1, as there is no escape from the out, but now I think I recall a ruling somewhere that says number 3, which might mean the things like:
a - runner struck dead ball overrides
b - the force is on until the ball hits the ground if untouched
c - who knows

ASA first, please.

I would say it is #3. The reason is on balls close to the line we are instructed to call "Infield fly if fair." If the ball lands untouched and rolls into foul territory and is then touched or lands foul it is simply a foul ball it is simply a foul ball. The ball doesn't become fair until it is touched over fair territory, touches the the ground over fair territory, or touches the ground in fair territory beyond first or third base.