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Old Sun May 19, 2013, 05:26pm
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The only thing I would say is that there is no such thing as "pick it up - play on." It is one thing to consider that if the ball is picked up it is more difficult to make a ruling saying that it is out. It's quite another thing to say "pick it up - play on" as a written in stone theory. And the theory would be wrong.

Maybe the UIC was trying to prevent a $h!t storm because other people say the plate umpire call dead ball. Who knows? Did you ask the UIC?
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Old Sun May 19, 2013, 05:42pm
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When I UIC Championship play, I will never , ever, ever, approach the umpire(s) on a field unless I am requested by those umpires themselves. (even if I see something 'wrong' or what I perceive as 'wrong') I have had coaches and others come to me and ask that I 'rule' on something on a field, but I will do no such thing unless I am called over by the umpire(s).

and yes, if a defensive player 'brings' a blocked or dead ball back into play and the umpires have not seen or called the ball dead yet, the ball is still live. (saw this last year on the the HOF field last year at the 18u Gold nationals. and I go over this very thing at the pre game plate conferences with the coaches.
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Old Sun May 19, 2013, 07:00pm
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and yes, if a defensive player 'brings' a blocked or dead ball back into play and the umpires have not seen or called the ball dead yet, the ball is still live. (saw this last year on the the HOF field last year at the 18u Gold nationals. and I go over this very thing at the pre game plate conferences with the coaches.
There is nothing whatsoever to cover about this in the pre-game conference. It is ridiculous that anyone covers it. Why not just enforce the rule should something occur? This is a standard book rule that does not need addressing. The odds are that when addressing it, you are saying something that is incorrect anyway.
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Old Sun May 19, 2013, 07:26pm
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There is nothing whatsoever to cover about this in the pre-game conference. It is ridiculous that anyone covers it. Why not just enforce the rule should something occur? This is a standard book rule that does not need addressing. The odds are that when addressing it, you are saying something that is incorrect anyway.
Guess you have never called at HOF stadium in OKC. (or at UT in Austin) Because of the the 'press/TV' area on the first base line, it blocks the view of the PU's view of the tarp storage area. (even when trailing the B/R) it is unique, and with any unique ground rule, it should be covered. If the ballpark is totally tight, you might have a point, but that is rarely the case.

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Old Sun May 19, 2013, 08:08pm
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Guess you have never called at HOF stadium in OKC. (or at UT in Austin) Because of the the 'press/TV' area on the first base line, it blocks the view of the PU's view of the tape storage area. (even when trailing the B/R) it is unique, and with any unique ground rule, it should be covered. If the ballpark is totally tight, you might have a point, but that is rarely the case.
Yep, can vouch for that. HOF also has issues down the LF foul area when the whole field is in use.
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