USSSA Umpire Interference

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by ASA Ump MN

Rule 8 section 2 in the 2013 rule book!

Correct, I looked at 11th edition, not 12th.

[jwwashburn]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Correct, I looked at 11th edition, not 12th.

Are you guys talking about USSSA? 8.2 is the look back rule.

I actually found it online: http://www.usssa.com/usssa/usssa-gen...013FPRules.pdf Page 45-46

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Really REALLY deep F4 or F6. Or conceivably the 5th infielder or extreme shift situation, although I see that being far more likely in baseball.

Admittedly know almost nothing about USSSA, but

In NCAA/ASA/NFHS still almost impossible; the interpretation of "in front of" versus "behind" is NOT parallel to the baseline, it is the string theory line between the two closest infielders. Unless F3 and/or F5 are SERIOUSLY deep, and completely ignoring a possible bunt, even really, REALLY deep F4 and F6 are still "in front" of any base umpire, as it applies to this rule.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Admittedly know almost nothing about USSSA, but

In NCAA/ASA/NFHS still almost impossible; the interpretation of "in front of" versus "behind" is NOT parallel to the baseline, it is the string theory line between the two closest infielders. Unless F3 and/or F5 are SERIOUSLY deep, and completely ignoring a possible bunt, even really, REALLY deep F4 and F6 are still "in front" of any base umpire, as it applies to this rule.

U-trip is the same... and while I agree with your "almost" impossible... I was trying to provide an example that gives the "almost" to the answer, as opposed to the answer simply being "impossible".

I can remember a case where, with a superstar LHB, and me in B, I was WAY deep to stay behind the F3-F4 line, both of whom were playing on the grass ... but I could see other umpires potentially staying in a more normal spot and being ahead of that line.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

U-trip is the same... and while I agree with your "almost" impossible... I was trying to provide an example that gives the "almost" to the answer, as opposed to the answer simply being "impossible".

I can remember a case where, with a superstar LHB, and me in B, I was WAY deep to stay behind the F3-F4 line, both of whom were playing on the grass ... but I could see other umpires potentially staying in a more normal spot and being ahead of that line.

Which could lead to the next rhetorical question, being:

In that positioning, are they still infielders? The ASA definition makes it possible they are not.

[ASA Ump MN]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

Are you guys talking about USSSA? 8.2 is the look back rule.

I actually found it online: http://www.usssa.com/usssa/usssa-gen...013FPRules.pdf Page 45-46

Yes we are/were talking the 2013 USSSA Slow Pitch rule book.

What a mess...

Here's a link! I can't remember where I got my 2013 SP copy but it's much better then this one...

http://www.usssa.com/usssa/usssa-gen...SPRuleBook.pdf

[jwwashburn]

Ahhhhh, I would rather get hit in the head with a rock than work SP

[EsqUmp]

These rule books are free online. Use the "find" option and plug in a key word to help you out.

[KJUmp]

USSSA - 8.7.E, 10.1.F.1[/QUOTE]

And also covered on Pg.20 of the 2013 USSSA Fast Pitch Clarifications and Interpretations.