Illegal Glove

[MD Longhorn]

Let me restate a bit, after re-reading your first statement. There's a school of thought out there that if the OBS CAUSES the miss (which wasn't clear in the OP, but a possibility), then the miss should be ignored. It's not exactly supported by the way the rule is written, but I get that and believe Irish belongs to that school of thought (not meaning to put words in anyone's mouth).

But even if you believe in that, and subscribe to that school ... Tex's ruling is still incorrect - the award of 3rd is wrong no matter which way you look at this. It's either an out, or it's home. Can't be 3rd.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Let me restate a bit, after re-reading your first statement. There's a school of thought out there that if the OBS CAUSES the miss (which wasn't clear in the OP, but a possibility), then the miss should be ignored. It's not exactly supported by the way the rule is written, but I get that and believe Irish belongs to that school of thought (not meaning to put words in anyone's mouth).

Interesting school of thought. And that's the case for small white ball play, at least under pro rules.

But I've always believed that in softball, runners were still obligated to touch their bases, even if obstructed from them initially. That's how the rules read anyway. The time it takes for them to adjust and eventually touch the base after being hindered is taken into account during the obstruction award.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Manny A

Interesting school of thought. And that's the case for small white ball play, at least under pro rules.

But I've always believed that in softball, runners were still obligated to touch their bases, even if obstructed from them initially. That's how the rules read anyway. The time it takes for them to adjust and eventually touch the base after being hindered is taken into account during the obstruction award.

I agree with you 100%.