Illegal Glove
Trivia stolen from elsewhere. Usually dumb and easy scenarios, but this one is good.
Ruling for NCAA, ASA, Fed: Runner on 2nd, 1 out. On a base hit to right field, the runner misses 3rd and scores. Immediately following the play, it is discovered that the right fielder used an illegal glove. The offensive coach takes the option of the play scoring the run. The defense then properly appeals the runner missing 3rd. Result? |
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I'm trying to think of a reason to not honor the missed base appeal...but I can't.
Unless it's that the offensive coach picked the result of the play and now the final result of the play has changed. But I see the result of the play as being "the runner from second advanced to home, missing third base along the way". That's the option the coach picked, so that's what we have. |
I, too, would argue that the appeal would stand. Bases passed are bases achieved, so the "play" that is given as an option for the offensive coach to choose from would not be affected by his/her runner's infraction. The umpire would certainly not tell the coach, "Well, if you accept the play, your runner will score if the defense doesn't subsequently appeal the fact that she missed third."
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Agree with BretMan and CeiclOne.
I had a very similar case this year while BU. On a hit ground ball to the outfield, there was obstruction at 3rd base (blocking the base), and the runner missed 3rd base on the way to scoring at home plate. The defense properly appealed the missed base. I immediately called both coaches and the PU together and explained, that there were 2 infractions on this play at 3rd base: obstruction by the 3rd baseman and the runner missed 3rd base. I sent the scored runner back to 3rd base. Both coaches agreed. Next batter. I still don't know if this was the proper call, but all were pleased. |
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In your case, you should not hold a press conference - you simply announce the obstruction and the award (home - not 3rd!). The offense then has the opportunity to retouch home, 3rd, home, if they want to. You don't announce this though. Then, after it's obvious whether offense is going to do anything, the defense may appeal the miss - and she's out. |
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If so, then why is she out, the award should negate the OBS? |
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Let me restate a bit, after re-reading your first statement. There's a school of thought out there that if the OBS CAUSES the miss (which wasn't clear in the OP, but a possibility), then the miss should be ignored. It's not exactly supported by the way the rule is written, but I get that and believe Irish belongs to that school of thought (not meaning to put words in anyone's mouth).
But even if you believe in that, and subscribe to that school ... Tex's ruling is still incorrect - the award of 3rd is wrong no matter which way you look at this. It's either an out, or it's home. Can't be 3rd. |
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But I've always believed that in softball, runners were still obligated to touch their bases, even if obstructed from them initially. That's how the rules read anyway. The time it takes for them to adjust and eventually touch the base after being hindered is taken into account during the obstruction award. |
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