Umpire runs into base runner

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by Manny A

I don't see how it would be different. No rule covers either situation (and I wouldn't use 10-2-3g in either case), and I don't agree that the umpire getting in the way of a throw is solely due to player action. It's still the umpire's fault by placing himself/herself in the path of the throw.

I don't know about softball. But the 10-2-3g equivalent in baseball is limited for use when a rule doesn't cover a unique situation. For example, a batted ball gets stuck in a plastic cup that fell onto the field, or a pitch hits a bird in flight (those happened in MLB games). It is not to be used when an umpire gets in the way of the players.

Umpire interference is defined; it exists, there are rules that apply, it has specific and extremely limited applications.

The clear, obvious, and distinct implication is that nothing else during live play is umpire interference, correctable, or even something that needs to be acknowledged.

[IRISHMAFIA]

C'mon, somebodies got to say it. So, we will leave it up to the anal guy.

An umpire should never, ever be in a situation where a runner is going to run into them. If the umpire is, s/he is way out of position.

Unfortunately, for the offense, there is nothing that can be done about it within the rules of the game. The umpire screwed up and, as previously noted, needs to stand humbly in front of the coach and take a deserved, but not abusive, tongue lashing.

[EsqUmp]

Sounds like an umpire who doesn't want to pause-read-react. Where was the ball hit and where was he going?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

C'mon, somebodies got to say it. So, we will leave it up to the anal guy.

An umpire should never, ever be in a situation where a runner is going to run into them. If the umpire is, s/he is way out of position.

Unfortunately, for the offense, there is nothing that can be done about it within the rules of the game. The umpire screwed up and, as previously noted, needs to stand humbly in front of the coach and take a deserved, but not abusive, tongue lashing.

I agree 100%, but will admit to the peanut gallery that this happened to me.

My 4th or 5th year - some 16 odd years ago. R1 on 2nd, 1 out. R1 has been taking generous leads, and BR is quick. BR squares to bunt and hits it right on the 3rd base line, about 15 feet, but in the air. I read the play and see (in my mind) F5 barehanding and firing to first. I move forward to get behind the pitcher for my call at first base... and freaking F5 lays out like Jerry Rice and catches the ball. At the moment it happens, I'm directly in the baseline behind R1 who recovers at the same time as me. I initially think I should simply continue and I'll be out of her way in a step or two, then turn for the play at 2nd. R1, for whatever reason, turns around toward her left and runs right at me (instead of 2nd base) and we collide.

I took a crapload from the coach when she was thrown out by inches. Deservedly so. I learned a lot that day, and it's never even come close to happening again.

[Manny A]

I can't recall ever flat-out running into a base runner. But I've on occasion done the Cupid Shuffle as I move in from the C position on a trouble ball to left field, and the runner at second base is facing me while watching the ball, and deciding whether to advance or go back to the bag to tag up.

When I try to go to the right of her, she'll start moving toward third. Then I'll adjust and try to go to the left, and she'll change her mind and start heading back to second. One of these days we're going to wipe each other out.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Umpire interference is defined; it exists, there are rules that apply, it has specific and extremely limited applications.

The clear, obvious, and distinct implication is that nothing else during live play is umpire interference, correctable, or even something that needs to be acknowledged.

I'm 100% in agreement.

But to be accurate, what we're talking about here is umpire obstruction. And, unlike umpire interference which is a recognized and defined concept in all softball (and baseball) rule sets, there is no such thing as umpire obstruction. And I was merely pointing out that we can't use 10-2-3g to create a ruling for it.