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Old Tue Jun 26, 2012, 05:18pm
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Actually, Steve answered the question in the OP which had absolutely NOTHING to do with the rules pertaining to the double base and BR.

My post was a simple explanation of the rule, not directed at anything in particular except to note that some people have a tendency to read into situations or rules.

Let's see if I can make it a little more simple. On a play on the BR there are two bases, one for the defense and one for the offense (save an instance where one of the exceptions occur).

If a fielder steps over the white and doesn't touch the white, the fielder still hasn't touched the base since the colored portion officially does not exist for the purpose of retiring the BR.

I think Joe is looking for explicit direction from the rule book when there is no need. If the defense did not execute the proper procedure to put out the BR, the BR must be safe.

Now, the question is may the BR touch the white portion and be considered to have touched 1B. According to the rule, the answer is no since the only allowance for the BR to be safe when there is a play at 1B (save an instance where on eof the exceptions occur), is to touch the colored base.
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Old Tue Jun 26, 2012, 07:04pm
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Actually, Steve answered the question in the OP which had absolutely NOTHING to do with the rules pertaining to the double base and BR.

My post was a simple explanation of the rule, not directed at anything in particular except to note that some people have a tendency to read into situations or rules.

Let's see if I can make it a little more simple. On a play on the BR there are two bases, one for the defense and one for the offense (save an instance where one of the exceptions occur).

If a fielder steps over the white and doesn't touch the white, the fielder still hasn't touched the base since the colored portion officially does not exist for the purpose of retiring the BR.
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I think Joe is looking for explicit direction from the rule book when there is no need. If the defense did not execute the proper procedure to put out the BR, the BR must be safe.

Now, the question is may the BR touch the white portion and be considered to have touched 1B. According to the rule, the answer is no since the only allowance for the BR to be safe when there is a play at 1B (save an instance where on eof the exceptions occur), is to touch the colored base.

And the call is SAFE since the runner has passed the base before the fielder tagged it (pending appeal).

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Old Fri Jul 06, 2012, 06:35pm
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What if the batter-runner slides into the white base, and remains there (assuming there's a play at first)? The BR doesn't have to go back to the base, so the appeal time is done, or can we go right to calling the runner out for interference?
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Old Mon Jul 09, 2012, 09:32am
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What if the batter-runner slides into the white base, and remains there (assuming there's a play at first)? The BR doesn't have to go back to the base, so the appeal time is done, or can we go right to calling the runner out for interference?
Interference with what?
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Old Mon Jul 09, 2012, 10:40am
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Interference with what?
The play at first base. Essentially, wouldn't a slide exclusively into the white base only possible if the batter-runner leaves the three-foot running lane?
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Old Mon Jul 09, 2012, 10:47am
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White base touch, slide or whatever, only INT if the BR hinders, impedes or confuses the covering fielder.
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Old Mon Jul 09, 2012, 11:13am
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White base touch, slide or whatever, only INT if the BR hinders, impedes or confuses the covering fielder.
mbcrowder has it right. The scenario posted by bainsey has nothing remotely suggesting INT.
8.4.M.9 says this is INT if the BR collides with the fielder about to catch the thrown ball.
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