I thought it was getting better...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by azbigdawg

Since Andy can't just come out and say it..... There is a HUGE difference between Phoenix umpires and the outlying areas..... The Phoenix area HS crew does an amazing job with training.... and they can be a little more selective with state tournament assignments. The Championships are usually split up between different parts of the state with Phoenix usually getting the top level(s). The outlying areas are less likely to send a well trained umpire over a buddy.....regardless of the type of season the buddy is having. It gets sickening....same bad mistakes from the same bad umpires. Not saying Phoenix has all the good ones, because there are some GREAT ones from Tucson.... but that's the general rule of thumb

That seems to be relevant in many areas. Some take their umpiring to the extremes on training while others seem to be "here's your hat, here's your schedule, see you in three months" type of associations.

Really don't care how some people feel about training, it can only put the umpire in a better position to succeed on the field, locally and nationally. There is no such thing as too much training.

[gdc25]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

There is no such thing as too much training.

Could you PLEASE convey that to the "veterans" in my state that think they should be able to test out of training every year.

[DaveASA/FED]

Originally Posted by gdc25

Could you PLEASE convey that to the "veterans" in my state that think they should be able to test out of training every year.

I think I would take that bet with just about any of them I know....I will give them the test that was presented at this years clinics. I bet 95+% of them could not score over an 80% of it!! Would that help their "I don't need this attitude"?? Probably not but it would reassure us they don't have a clue!

[gdc25]

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED

I think I would take that bet with just about any of them I know....I will give them the test that was presented at this years clinics. I bet 95+% of them could not score over an 80% of it!! Would that help their "I don't need this attitude"?? Probably not but it would reassure us they don't have a clue!

Uhh.... do we really need reassuring?

oh, and can you try to be more entertaining next year?

[Andy]

Originally Posted by gdc25

Uhh.... do we really need reassuring?

oh, and can you try to be more entertaining next year?

Wait, Dave be more entertaining????

After spending a week with him in San Diego last year...he's pretty damn entertaining.....

[DRJ1960]

Do those of you who train umps have different "levels" of training (at the HS level) or is everyone (Rookies-old dogs) basically getting the same info at the same time in the same meeting[s]?

Thanks

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

Do those of you who train umps have different "levels" of training (at the HS level) or is everyone (Rookies-old dogs) basically getting the same info at the same time in the same meeting[s]?

Thanks

Speaking as one who attends training, it is everyone at the same time here.

[gdc25]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

Do those of you who train umps have different "levels" of training (at the HS level) or is everyone (Rookies-old dogs) basically getting the same info at the same time in the same meeting[s]?

Thanks

Due to time constraints, I'll give you the Readers Digest version of what we do.

In Indiana (ASA) we give schools and clinics. The clinics are basically just a "what's new this year" sit and learn type of deal.

At our schools, we bring everybody into a common room. Give them a brief run down of what is expected of them and then split our umpires into separate groups for drills. "Rookies" being one of those groups in which we go over the most basic of basics. From how to brush a plate to what heel-toe really means.