NCAA non approved bat

[shipwreck]

We are still getting conflicting opinions on this. If a non approved bat is found in the initial bat check and removed by the PU, how can it be brought back in? So what criteria has to happen for the head coach to be ejected? Is it anytime a player is discovered using a non approved bat, or does it have to be the second time the bat is discovered? I must have a thick skull. Dave

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

We are still getting conflicting opinions on this. If a non approved bat is found in the initial bat check and removed by the PU, how can it be brought back in? So what criteria has to happen for the head coach to be ejected? Is it anytime a player is discovered using a non approved bat, or does it have to be the second time the bat is discovered? I must have a thick skull. Dave

It's not your skull that's the problem. It's the way it is outline in the book. It would be much easier if they listed it as 1- 2- 3-.

Basically anytime an inappropriate bat is found, the head coach is ejected. The one exception is when the inappropriate bat is used by an on-deck batter. In that case, the on-deck batter is warned. If an on-deck batter is later discovered to have the same bat, they are ejected. There's no note of the coach being ejected in this case.

The theory behind almost always ejecting the head coach is to really put the onus on them to clean up their equipment.

[Andy]

There has still been no answer to the basic question:

If an illegal bat is "discovered" and removed from the game and secured by the umpires, how can it get back into the game to be "rediscovered"?

[outathm]

The bat gets back in the game when the 'nice guy' tells the coach, "This bat can't be used, get rid of it for the game", instead of taking the bat and handing it to the OSA or press box. I have worked in tournaments this year where this happened and then the next day the bat was in the rack ready for inspection. Confiscate like the book says and there will not be any question of the bat coming back.

If it does come back, there is a lot bigger problem than a bad bat.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by outathm

The bat gets back in the game when the 'nice guy' tells the coach, "This bat can't be used, get rid of it for the game", instead of taking the bat and handing it to the OSA or press box. I have worked in tournaments this year where this happened and then the next day the bat was in the rack ready for inspection. Confiscate like the book says and there will not be any question of the bat coming back.

If it does come back, there is a lot bigger problem than a bad bat.

Or the bat is in a bat bag and they take it out later in the game.

[shipwreck]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

Or the bat is in a bat bag and they take it out later in the game.

Nope, in the case you just state, that would not be the same. We are talking about a bat being rediscovered. In your scenario, that would just be being discovered for the first time. The coach wouldn't be ejected in the case the way you stated it. Dave

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by shipwreck

Nope, in the case you just state, that would not be the same. We are talking about a bat being rediscovered. In your scenario, that would just be being discovered for the first time. The coach wouldn't be ejected in the case the way you stated it. Dave

I was responding to the specific post, not the original question. That's why I quoted the statement. My point was that it isn't always the umpire's fault that an inappropriate bat ends up getting used. While some umpires may not follow proper protocol, that certainly doesn't mean that teams aren't purposely concealing the bats and then using them.