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Old Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:04pm
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Where will I find, if anywhere, the requirement for a team to have a coach? If a team only has one coach, and that coach decides to leave, I have looked and can find the requirement for the listing on the line up card, but nowhere can I find that the coach has to be present for the game.

I am asking, because a coach in my game today was close to leaving and she was alone.

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Old Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:04pm
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Where will I find, if anywhere, the requirement for a team to have a coach? If a team only has one coach, and that coach decides to leave, I have looked and can find the requirement for the listing on the line up card, but nowhere can I find that the coach has to be present for the game.

I am asking, because a coach in my game today was close to leaving and she was alone.

NCAA only, and thank you.
NCAA-1.75, 1.115, 4.4 thru 4.4.2, 13.1

Additionally, P.12 of Dee Abrahamson's 2012 Interpretations (Acting Head Coach) specifically covers the situation in your post.
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Old Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:30pm
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NCAA 13.1

13.1 Ejections
Umpires have the authority to remove a player and/or other team personnel from
further participation in a game for unsporting behavior or verbal misconduct. The
on-site administrator shall make him/herself available to assist the umpire crew
as requested.
EFFECT—An ejected player may remain in the dugout but may not
remain on the playing field or communicate with opponents
or umpires.
Ejected nonplaying personnel must leave the playing field
and dugout. They may occupy the space near or behind the
home-run fence, but they may not go behind the backstop,
or near the dugout or bullpen. They may not communicate
(visually, electronically or verbally) further with the teams
or umpires.
Note: In the event of an ejection of a head coach, an umpire
shall ask the departing coach to identify an acting head
coach. If the head coach declines to do so, the umpires shall
initiate forfeit proceedings.
The umpire should notify the offender that failure to comply
as noted above will result in a forfeit. If the directive is not
obeyed in a timely manner, a one-minute forfeit warning
shall be issued to the head coach. If the warning expires, a
forfeit shall be declared in favor of the team not at fault.
Exception: An ejected coach may participate in a limited capacity during
a game only to attend to an injured or ill player or to ensure
the safety of players when their safety is in question.
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Old Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:52pm
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Thanks for all the references to what the head coach is and their job description. I also saw the ejection section and read through it thoroughly. I am wondering if the 'designated head coach' has to be an adult, or if the coach could designate a player, ie. the starting pitcher from Game 1 who is not going to play in Game 2?
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Dee's reponse on page 12 answered the question. Not a player, but I wonder who is 'the institution' when the team is on the road. Can the head coach name 'Team Dad A' as the acting head coach?
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Old Tue Mar 20, 2012, 05:32am
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Dee's reponse on page 12 answered the question. Not a player, but I wonder who is 'the institution' when the team is on the road. Can the head coach name 'Team Dad A' as the acting head coach?
This is where I have to ask...do you have a current NCAA rule book? Based on this post my suspicion is that you don't.

If I'm wrong and you do, you need to go back and read the referenced rules that were provided to you in my reply.

You'll find the exact answer to your question in the very first sentence of one of the four cited rules.

If you don't have a rule book get one. If you do, read it....especially when you are provided rule citations in answer to a sitch or question that you post.
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Old Tue Mar 20, 2012, 07:42am
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Thanks for all the references to what the head coach is and their job description. I also saw the ejection section and read through it thoroughly. I am wondering if the 'designated head coach' has to be an adult, or if the coach could designate a player, ie. the starting pitcher from Game 1 who is not going to play in Game 2?
I'm sure there may be an exception somewhere, but aren't all NCAA players "adults?" (18 or above).
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I'm sure there may be an exception somewhere, but aren't all NCAA players "adults?" (18 or above).
I just read on another message board about a girl who graduated high school in December of her senior year and was going to play college ball this (the following) spring at age 17.

The exception that proves the rule?
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I'm sure there may be an exception somewhere, but aren't all NCAA players "adults?" (18 or above).
I was 17 when I first set foot on campus. Granted, I turned 18 within a few weeks, but there are plenty of college students who are under 18.
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Old Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:15am
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I was 17 when I first set foot on campus. Granted, I turned 18 within a few weeks, but there are plenty of college students who are under 18.
I was actually 16 when I arrived.
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Old Tue Mar 20, 2012, 11:53am
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I was actually 16 when I arrived.
As was I (many years ago).

I thought I was an adullt
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Acting HC does not have to be an adult.
Acting HC can be a student, for example a student manager.
Acting HC CANNOT be a student-athlete.

2012 NCAA Interpretations from Dee Abrahamson (P.12-4.4&13.1)
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Old Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:51pm
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This is where I have to ask...do you have a current NCAA rule book? Based on this post my suspicion is that you don't.

If I'm wrong and you do, you need to go back and read the referenced rules that were provided to you in my reply.

You'll find the exact answer to your question in the very first sentence of one of the four cited rules.

If you don't have a rule book get one. If you do, read it....especially when you are provided rule citations in answer to a sitch or question that you post.
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Old Fri Mar 23, 2012, 06:56am
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I was 17 when I first set foot on campus. Granted, I turned 18 within a few weeks, but there are plenty of college students who are under 18.
My oldest was also 17 when she started college.....she did well......she is now an engineer......

Middle daughter turned 19 in September of her Freshman year.......she graduates this May......she did a year of Architecture.......the models killed her.....she actually did pretty good and and made high C's in her Studio classes.....but did not like spending 15 hours a day at the Architecture building. She graduates on May 11 in Graphic and Stuctural Design......took 5 years......but an Architecture degree was the same.......she already has a few job interviews......she has a good work ethic and a good job history.......she was not as smart as her older sister....but made it up with hard work......

They were just 12 months apart but 2 years apart in school......looking back......that was a good thing.

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I was actually 16 when I arrived.
Wow! That must have been one helluva delivery!
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