Not Your Everyday Play

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

I understand that. NCAA, Referee Magazine and PONY (they are clearing up the book) use it the way I worded it. Since I deal with those organizations more, I use their terminology.

Not my book (not sure what "clearing up the book" means - but I see zero references to the runners in baseball-order.)

PS - Referee Magazine's reputation on this site is BARELY ahead of Joe Morgan or Lisa Hernandez. Would recommend not using them as a source for anything.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Not my book (not sure what "clearing up the book" means - but I see zero references to the runners in baseball-order.)

PS - Referee Magazine's reputation on this site is BARELY ahead of Joe Morgan or Lisa Hernandez. Would recommend not using them as a source for anything.

"Cleaning up" means they had a lot of grammatical errors, formatting errors and too many inconsistencies. Most of them are being addressed.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Not my book (not sure what "clearing up the book" means - but I see zero references to the runners in baseball-order.)

PS - Referee Magazine's reputation on this site is BARELY ahead of Joe Morgan or Lisa Hernandez. Would recommend not using them as a source for anything.

There are a lot of good ideas and articles in Referee. Not just for softball and baseball, but other sports and other general issues as well. While I don't agree with everything they write, nor what anyone else rights, there's a lot to consider. I wouldn't put blinders on just because it wasn't the way I was necessarily trained. John Bennett, you many on this forum, including myself, hold in high regard, often writes for them.

I would concur with your opinion of Joe Morgan and Lisa Fernandez though. They are almost as bad as Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

There are a lot of good ideas and articles in Referee. Not just for softball and baseball, but other sports and other general issues as well. While I don't agree with everything they write, nor what anyone else rights, there's a lot to consider. I wouldn't put blinders on just because it wasn't the way I was necessarily trained. John Bennett, you many on this forum, including myself, hold in high regard, often writes for them.

I would concur with your opinion of Joe Morgan and Lisa Fernandez though. They are almost as bad as Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.

I understand - and will agree there are good articles on occasion (their football stuff is generally FAR better than their softball and baseball stuff) - but they often (far too often for an umpire's taste) simply get rules or plays wrong. They used to have an Ask the Umpire feature which was wrong more often than it was right. I would say one thing ... if they say one thing and ANY other reputable source says something else, it's at least 10-1 that the other source is right.

[argodad]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

There are a lot of good ideas and articles in Referee. Not just for softball and baseball, but other sports and other general issues as well. While I don't agree with everything they write, nor what anyone else rights, there's a lot to consider. I wouldn't put blinders on just because it wasn't the way I was necessarily trained. John Bennett, you many on this forum, including myself, hold in high regard, often writes for them.

I would concur with your opinion of Joe Morgan and Lisa Fernandez though. They are almost as bad as Joe Buck and Tim McCarver.

In the last year I've emailed Todd Korth about four or five mistakes in the Referee softball section. Softball is an afterthought for NASO.