Not seen everyday in MLB...

Dakota · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 06, 2009, 10:03am

Twins v Tigers, Friday July 3rd game. Mike Reilly is U1. Don't remember the inning, or the batter-runner, but Reilly did the classic OUT-SAFE call on a muffed catch by Detroit's F3. Detroit manager Jim Leyland came out to argue with Reilly to no avail. I'm sure OUT-SAFE is not unheard of by a MLB umpire, but it was the first one I can remember witnessing.

Ump Rube · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 06, 2009, 10:14am

I was at the game it was like the 10th/11th (of 16 that night), and Leyland did not come out to argue the safe/out. He came to ask that Reilly get help from HP on a possible running lane violation. HP-U (whose name escapes me, the other crew members were Merriwether-2B & Diaz-3B) said he did not see any violation and when Leyland wanted to argue with him about what he saw Reilly stepped in a told him that it was his call, and that the HP-U can only give him information, but the decision is his.

Dakota · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 06, 2009, 10:29am

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Originally Posted by Ump Rube

I was at the game it was like the 10th/11th (of 16 that night),...

Yeah, me too. I stayed for all 16.

jicecone · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 06, 2009, 10:48am

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Originally Posted by Dakota

Twins v Tigers, Friday July 3rd game. Mike Reilly is U1. Don't remember the inning, or the batter-runner, but Reilly did the classic OUT-SAFE call on a muffed catch by Detroit's F3. Detroit manager Jim Leyland came out to argue with Reilly to no avail. I'm sure OUT-SAFE is not unheard of by a MLB umpire, but it was the first one I can remember witnessing.

I would not be surprised if it didn't happen more often. At that level you would expect the catch to be made 99.9% of the time. and of course the one time hurry your call is the one time he drops the ball. always expect the unexpected, except when you doze off and become the unexpected. It has happened to ALL of us.

mbyron · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 06, 2009, 10:51am

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Originally Posted by Ump Rube

I was at the game it was like the 10th/11th (of 16 that night), and Leyland did not come out to argue the safe/out. He came to ask that Reilly get help from HP on a possible running lane violation. HP-U (whose name escapes me, the other crew members were Merriwether-2B & Diaz-3B) said he did not see any violation and when Leyland wanted to argue with him about what he saw Reilly stepped in a told him that it was his call, and that the HP-U can only give him information, but the decision is his.

How do you know what everyone said? I'm just curious, not challenging anything.

Ump Rube · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 06, 2009, 10:57am

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How do you know what everyone said? I'm just curious, not challenging anything.

I don't know what everyone said, but how people were moving, the apparent level of frustration and the order of events seem to only fit this conclusion. I am open to other conclusions, but at this time I don't see any others.

Dakota · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 06, 2009, 12:34pm

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Originally Posted by jicecone

... It has happened to ALL of us.

For sure... It was just the first time I'd seen it happen in person to a MLB umpire!

Dakota · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Jul 06, 2009, 12:37pm

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Originally Posted by Ump Rube

I don't know what everyone said, but how people were moving, the apparent level of frustration and the order of events seem to only fit this conclusion. I am open to other conclusions, but at this time I don't see any others.

My thought since the HP was brought into it was he was arguing interference by the BR; whether it was running lane or not, IDK. According to the box score, the HP was Eric Cooper.