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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 02:41pm
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batter's interference

Had this come up last nite at meeting.
Runner on third, no outs, catcher throws to third in attempt to pick off runner.
1. Throw hits batter while she's in the box....nothing, live ball, play on.
2. Throw hits batter after she stepped out of box.

What are the penalties, if any in #2?
Also, if possible, could you site a case play .

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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 03:08pm
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Had this come up last nite at meeting.
Runner on third, no outs, catcher throws to third in attempt to pick off runner.
1. Throw hits batter while she's in the box....nothing, live ball, play on.
2. Throw hits batter after she stepped out of box.

What are the penalties, if any in #2?
Also, if possible, could you site a case play .

Thanks.
Umpire, coach or parent?

Probably doesn't matter in this particular case, but you should include the ruleset you're playing under, as it does matter sometimes.

We don't have enough information yet. 1 is not always nothing. 2 is not always something. Can you describe the play in more detail? Was the throw immediate or was there some delay, what was the batter doing, exactly. This sitch is HTBT, but some description on your part might allow us to visualize and at least tell you what the umpire was (or should have been) looking for.
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:32pm
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Umpire, coach or parent?
Say what?
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:05pm
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Say what?
Is the poster asking the question as an umpire, coach, or a parent.
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:39pm
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Is the poster asking the question as an umpire, coach, or a parent.
In that case, who cares? Just answer it, ask for more info, or be quiet.
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:52pm
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In that case, who cares? Just answer it, ask for more info, or be quiet.
You're making the assertion that parents and coaches speak the same language as umpires.

With all due respect (that has greatly diminished over the last month or two), your response to KJUmp and mbcrowder is completely inappropriate.
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Old Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:37am
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In that case, who cares? Just answer it, ask for more info, or be quiet.
Yes, master. I shall do as you require.

Whatever.
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:21pm
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Umpire, coach or parent?

Probably doesn't matter in this particular case, but you should include the ruleset you're playing under, as it does matter sometimes.

We don't have enough information yet. 1 is not always nothing. 2 is not always something. Can you describe the play in more detail? Was the throw immediate or was there some delay, what was the batter doing, exactly. This sitch is HTBT, but some description on your part might allow us to visualize and at least tell you what the umpire was (or should have been) looking for.
NFHS rules.
I was thought, in general, on this type of situation, if the batter stays in the batter's box, and does not intentionally interfer with the catcher's throw, it's nothing, live ball-play on.
However, if she steps out of the box, where she doesn't belong, and gets hit with the catcher's pick-off throw, batter's interference could be called. If batter's interference is called, would the batter be out? Or would the runner on third be called out?
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:53pm
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Need more information. I have nothing so far ?
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Old Wed Feb 29, 2012, 07:18am
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Had this come up last nite at meeting.
Runner on third, no outs, catcher throws to third in attempt to pick off runner.
1. Throw hits batter while she's in the box....nothing, live ball, play on.
2. Throw hits batter after she stepped out of box.

What are the penalties, if any in #2?
Also, if possible, could you site a case play .

Thanks.
GENERALLY, this is correct
in #2 batter is out, runner returns to/remains on 3rd

but of course its not always black and white
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Old Wed Feb 29, 2012, 10:51am
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GENERALLY, this is correct
in #2 batter is out, runner returns to/remains on 3rd

but of course its not always black and white
Is there a NFHS case play for this situation?
I can't find one.
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Old Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:13am
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Is there a NFHS case play for this situation?
I can't find one.
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don't know from memory, will try to remember to look it up this evening
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Old Wed Feb 29, 2012, 11:42am
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Is there a NFHS case play for this situation?
I can't find one.
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7.4.4 Situations A-E on pp. 47-48.
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Old Wed Feb 29, 2012, 01:09pm
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7.4.4 Situations A-E on pp. 47-48.

This reply did it,
Thank you all.
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Old Wed Feb 29, 2012, 05:26pm
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This reply did it,
Thank you all.
This is learning,
Wow a simple play complicated by "The Best" Umpires ? Come on guys. I am new on the Forum, not a new Umpire, we need to play nice if we want new Umpires on here.
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