2012 ASA Umpire Manual Correction

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

If the 1BU is counter-rotated and neither umpire goes out, there is absolutely no need for the PU to move up the line to the holding zone.

In fact, moving up the line like that could be misinterpreted by the players and coaches. They could misinterpret it as the PU having the call instead of the 3BU, thus lessening the 3BU's credibility on a tight play at 3rd.

Please, it is a small field, but not that small that ANYONE should be confused whose call it is. I don't think we are referring to an umpire dashing away from the plate. But if the infield play isn't coming to the plate, I'm stepping away as I don't want to have to look through the catcher and a runner to see the developing play in the field.

To answer the previous question, I suspect it is more the wording.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Please, it is a small field, but not that small that ANYONE should be confused whose call it is. I don't think we are referring to an umpire dashing away from the plate. But if the infield play isn't coming to the plate, I'm stepping away as I don't want to have to look through the catcher and a runner to see the developing play in the field.

To answer the previous question, I suspect it is more the wording.

True, but how many times do we hear, "go ask your partner" when our partner is 100+ feet away?

Now if said partner is only 30' away?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

True, but how many times do we hear, "go ask your partner" when our partner is 100+ feet away?

Now if said partner is only 30' away?

You don't have to say yes unless you believe there is a portion of the play you may have missed.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You don't have to say yes unless you believe there is a portion of the play you may have missed.

Oh, I know, but why should the PU be there in the first place? I'd prefer they stay closer to home plate to get ready for a play there.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Oh, I know, but why should the PU be there in the first place? I'd prefer they stay closer to home plate to get ready for a play there.

Don't read too much into this. Don't see where anyone suggested leaving the plate area, but I'm certainly not going to go to the back, outside corner of the RHBB and wait for a play.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Don't read too much into this. Don't see where anyone suggested leaving the plate area, but I'm certainly not going to go to the back, outside corner of the RHBB and wait for a play.

Well, that's what I was talking about... People might read that the umpire should go to the holding zone that's about halfway up the line in foul territory, and that's not where they should be in a 3-umpire crew with the 1BU counter-rotated and "all in."

[ncaaumpdj]

Point of plate anyone?