Inning Score Results - when can you correct?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Even when the home team's book is "official"?

Tru... if your count is 2-2, and partner's count is 2-2... and home team's book says 3-2... what's the count?

The scorebook is a tool, that's all. An error is the scorebook does not magically change what actually happened.

PS - even MLB has changed the scoreboard when it was discovered that it did not accurately reflect what happened 2 innings before.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Tru... if your count is 2-2, and partner's count is 2-2... and home team's book says 3-2... what's the count?

The scorebook is a tool, that's all. An error is the scorebook does not magically change what actually happened.

PS - even MLB has changed the scoreboard when it was discovered that it did not accurately reflect what happened 2 innings before.

Ah, but you're mixing pears and raisins. Typically, especially at Wreck level, no one in the dugout is keeping track of the count other than by immediate memory. Our official duties do not include keeping track of the score. I will, during the course of a game, check with both sides to see if their scores match. If they do not, I send one scorekeeper to see the other and sort the matter out.

More often than not, I actually have no idea what the score is. In some games, I know that it's something like "a whole bunch" to "not nearly enough" and I'll be asking for the difference in order to impose the run rule.

In JO tournament play or NFHS, I'm one of those guys who does jot down the runs scored in each inning on the back of my lineup cards. In league play, no one gives us lineup cards. Often times, one of the teams is playing defense with no one to keep their book. They ask how many runs came in after retiring the offense.

Magically changing what really happened? If there is no official scorer, how many guys are crediting their teammates with basehits when a play was clearly an error? I don't much care what they called it, all I know is it means another batter is coming up.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Ah, but you're mixing pears and raisins. Typically, especially at Wreck level, no one in the dugout is keeping track of the count other than by immediate memory. Our official duties do not include keeping track of the score.

I agree with all that. My point, though, without mixing up fruit - is that the scorebook, while labelled "official" is still merely a tool. The score is simply the number of runners who scored. If the book is wrong, fix the book. If what one side told the other was the score turns out to be incorrect, fix it. The score is THE SCORE.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I agree with all that. My point, though, without mixing up fruit - is that the scorebook, while labelled "official" is still merely a tool. The score is simply the number of runners who scored. If the book is wrong, fix the book. If what one side told the other was the score turns out to be incorrect, fix it. The score is THE SCORE.

Taken further to cover this situation....

If one team can legitimately show the "understood" score is incorrect, then it is incorrect, and the score is the correct score. You aren't correcting what IS the score, you are correcting what was mistakenly understood to be the score.

That said, if there is simply no justification to legitimately show the "understood" score is incorrect, then the "official" score is what was understood and agreed by all.

Or, you could make hash marks in the dirt each half inning to try to keep up.

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