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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:56pm
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Also, probably does not matter which rule book; as the possibility of double play, the runner hindering it and how soon runners need to be absent )not needing to evaporate) are all subjective and inconsistently interpreted.
That's as close as I will get to HTBT, but not commenting on a specific case.
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Old Mon Jun 20, 2011, 04:54pm
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That's as close as I will get to HTBT, but not commenting on a specific case.
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All those referring to attempts (intentional or not) to break up a DP - this sitch has no opportunity for a 2nd out at all. There is NO judgement that could possibly get two outs in the OP. (No reasonable judgement... I think we ALL know who's going to chime in now with his DP judgement).
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Old Wed Jun 22, 2011, 05:42pm
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Here is how I handled the OP, but first some background. As I stated it was a USSSA Girls' 12U Fastpitch Tournament and MTD, Jr., was behind the plate, because it was our third game of the day on a very very hot day and he is a very good son, .

I ruled R1 out for the Interference infraction and then ruled the B/R out because in my judgement R1's interference kept the defense from completely a DP (F4 tagging R1 and then throwing to F3 for the out at 1B); the two outs ended the inning. The offensive coach questioned my ruling but didn't put up much of a fight and the game proceede without any problems.

After the game, Mark, Jr., said he wasn't sure a DP was a sellable call being that the age group was 12U. But I told him that he learned two valuable lessons: (1) As umpires, we want outs and strikes, ; and (2) we got an inning ending DP on one pitch, . So endth the lesson from the "old man" to his "young whippersnapper" of a son, .

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Old Mon Jun 27, 2011, 11:33am
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; and (2) we got an inning ending DP on one pitch, .
How did you get an inning ending DP with 0 outs?

Also, as far as preventing a DP... I would think that F4 would have had to had control of the ball before R1 got to her to assume that a tag was reasonable. If R1 got to her and knocked her over before F4 had control, surely she could have run past without getting tagged.
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Old Mon Jun 27, 2011, 01:34pm
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How did you get an inning ending DP with 0 outs?
I went back to the OP and corrected the typo.

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Tournament Update.

This weekend MTD, Jr. and I umpired in the ASA-Ohio Girls' 12U State Championships. We had the exact same scenario Saturday morning in Pool Play. Again, Junior was on the Plate. Exact same play as the OP. I yelled TIME!! THAT'S INTERFERENCE, RUNNER OUT! Except, that F4 still managed to field the ball and throw the B/R out at 1B. Instinct, kicked in and I called the B/R for an inning ending DP and no one questioned the call, . The offensive team was using the 1B dugout and even their parents were telling me that was an easy way to end the inning.

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Last edited by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.; Mon Jun 27, 2011 at 03:45pm. Reason: Corrected spelling.
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