Legal touching of home plate?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

There is also the question of how low the umpire is going to get to see whether any part of the runner's foot also touched the plate

Agreed, but if the fielder's foot is, say, completely covering the front edge of the plate and the runner trips on it, an umpire can make the statement that they clearly saw the runner miss home plate.

However, I'm now changing the scenario, so back to the OP.

I do like Joel's answer, but I don't want to be too absolute in the assessment that if the runner's foot stepped on the fielder's, some part of his/her foot stepped on the base/plate. If I'm dead sure there was ZERO contact, then I'm dead sure. If I'm not, then I'll argue that she touched the plate.

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Agreed, but if the fielder's foot is, say, completely covering the front edge of the plate and the runner trips on it, an umpire can make the statement that they clearly saw the runner miss home plate.

However, I'm now changing the scenario, so back to the OP.

I do like Joel's answer, but I don't want to be too absolute in the assessment that if the runner's foot stepped on the fielder's, some part of his/her foot stepped on the base/plate. If I'm dead sure there was ZERO contact, then I'm dead sure. If I'm not, then I'll argue that she touched the plate.

This was either a Henry Pollard or Walt Sparks argument.......or maybe both.......I am having a hard time remembering back to 2003-2005 or so..........

I can absolutely see if the runner tripped and fell over the plate if F2 had their foot on the 3rd base side of the plate.......and you absolutely saw her/him not make the touch.........

But......that was not the scenario in the original post........

And to Steve........I did drink to that.........

Joel