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On a batted ball!
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Think to yourself here Andy. If SS had caught the fly ball, and had not been interfered with at all, and then had thrown to third on an appeal, what would you have had?
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An out on the appeal
But that's not what happened in the OP. I would let the run score as home was the last base legally touched prior to the interference. The argument could be made that since he left early home was not "legally" touched. However, I would not interpret it that way because we are never to give away that a runner left early. This, in my opinion, is similar to assuming that a runner touched a base unless properly appealed. Then you rule on the appeal. So, until a valid appeal is made at third, I would score the run but wait to leave the field in order to give the defense a chance to appeal.
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Doesn't matter.
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Answer my previous question about the ball being caught. Do you care then that the runner has already crossed home? Or, will you honor the appeal?
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Oh...also, for the play you stated in the OP, the information you provide here is totally irrelevant.
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How is it irrelevant?
It is most certainly relevant as on any interference call, you put runners back to the last base touched.
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In my old 2008 ASA rule book:
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EDIT: Oops, 8.2.K is a "thrown" ball. Hmmm...
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The OP didn't include the number of outs
Also, the interference was on batted ball, not a thrown ball. So 8.2.K doesn't apply. The exception to 8.7J-L does apply. If the interference prevents the fielder from catching a routine fly ball, fair or foul, with ordinary effort, the batter is also out.
So if there were two outs, then the run would not score.
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From the offense's perspective, I think this only works with less than 2 outs.
The ball becomes dead at the time of interference. When there is interference, return any runners to the last base touched at the time of the interference. For this to work for the offense, timing is important. R2 must not interfere until R1 has touched or crossed home. By rule, I think you score the run. At a NUS a couple of years ago, I presented a similar scenario to our instructors. KR ruled that the run would score. I'm not sure, but this may have also been included in one of the ASA rules and clarifications articles.
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Sure it matters
You don't put the runner back on third. He touched home before the appeal. Score the run, but wait to leave the field to give the defense an opportunity to appeal the runner leaving early.
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The only way this would result in the runner scoring is if there are no outs.
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