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Old Mon May 09, 2011, 09:10pm
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If they're going to let a wheelchair be on the field, why not a crutch?
Well, I would like to know why the coach is using a crutch? Wheelchairs are more likely to be used by someone with a permanent or long-term disability where crutches are often a short-term solution to medical issues.

If this is an ADA issue, not a problem, the crutches are good to go. If not, the coach can coach when he gets better.
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Old Mon May 09, 2011, 11:57pm
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If this is an ADA issue, not a problem, the crutches are good to go. If not, the coach can coach when he gets better.
That's what I was thinking. Still, if I have my choice of running full speed into one or the other, I'll take the crutch!

LIBlue, besides the ways already mentioned, you can still get Case Books the old fashioned way- NFHS sells them outright. If I remember, they're about $6-$7, but they have a minimum order of something like $12...so you might have to buy two!
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Old Tue May 10, 2011, 01:29am
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In the ISF rules I found this:

RULE 4. COACHES, PLAYERS AND SUBSTITUTES.
Sec. 1. COACHES.

c4. One coach can have in his possession in the coach’s box, a score book, pen or pencil and an indicator, all of which shall be used for score keeping or record keeping purposes only.


I don't think crutches (or wheelchairs) are mentioned in those rules. Is it possible to use crutches for score or record keeping? Don't think so; therefor not on my field!
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Old Tue May 10, 2011, 08:14am
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In the ISF rules I found this:

RULE 4. COACHES, PLAYERS AND SUBSTITUTES.
Sec. 1. COACHES.

c4. One coach can have in his possession in the coach’s box, a score book, pen or pencil and an indicator, all of which shall be used for score keeping or record keeping purposes only.


I don't think crutches (or wheelchairs) are mentioned in those rules. Is it possible to use crutches for score or record keeping? Don't think so; therefor not on my field!
So what do you do if he starts score keeping in the dirt with the crutch?
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Old Tue May 10, 2011, 11:45am
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In the ISF rules I found this:

RULE 4. COACHES, PLAYERS AND SUBSTITUTES.
Sec. 1. COACHES.

c4. One coach can have in his possession in the coach’s box, a score book, pen or pencil and an indicator, all of which shall be used for score keeping or record keeping purposes only.

I don't think crutches (or wheelchairs) are mentioned in those rules. Is it possible to use crutches for score or record keeping? Don't think so; therefor not on my field!
Well, you are lucky as to not be affected by the ludicrous and litigious bureaucracy those in the U.S. refer to as a government.
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Old Tue May 10, 2011, 04:57pm
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Well, you are lucky as to not be affected by the ludicrous and litigious bureaucracy those in the U.S. refer to as a government.
Well I guess you guys can always say that it might be too dangerous for a coach with crutches on the field: he can't properly move away for a batted ball. Since we, ump's, are responsible for the safety of all on our field (in the US more than over here) that will hold out in court...
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Old Tue May 10, 2011, 07:13pm
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Well I guess you guys can always say that it might be too dangerous for a coach with crutches on the field: he can't properly move away for a batted ball. Since we, ump's, are responsible for the safety of all on our field (in the US more than over here) that will hold out in court...
In the US, any baby who doesn't get his/her way, they sue whomever is in their way.

In the US, when someone gets hurt, they call an ambulance.....right after they call a lawyer.

In the US, there are even TV commercials where lawyers advertise to get you every penny then can if you think you have been wronged.

In the US, there is no such thing as an accident. Someone is always to blame whether they were responsible for someone's stupidity or not.

In the US, a thief can break into your house, trip over a loose board, fall down the stairs and not only sue the homeowner, but actually win!

And to show you how the public thinks, there is a football season ticket holder at the University of Kentucky who has hearing problems and he is suing the university to put closed captioning of all announcements on the scoreboards and all monitors in the stadium.

Great country America! Live the dream, trip on a sidewalk and sue somebody!
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In NY, we rule under state organization rules, which are ASA rules, with certain modifications (like unreported substitutes are no penalty). I have received a rule book each year through my affiliation with ASA and PONY, but I have never recieved a case book, and I've been doing this since 2003. Who am I to ask? My ASA assignor? High school ball doesn't use NFHS rules in NY, so it's senseless for me to get NFHS materials.
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