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Old Mon May 09, 2011, 08:00pm
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Nearest thing I could find in the Case Book...

3.5.2 SITUATION B: The head coach from the visiting team uses a wheelchair
as a mobility device and wishes to coach in the third-base coach's box while
his/her team is at bat. RULING: As discretely as possible under the circumstances, the umpire should ask the coach if he/she has contacted the state association to determine what accommodations have been authorized for the coach's special needs. If the state association had been contacted, the coach will have documentation indicating specific participation guidelines. If the state association had not been contacted by the coach, the umpire should permit the coach to occupy the coach's box at the appropriate times, but the umpire should contact the state association as soon as possible after the contest to inform them of the situation. COMMENT: Prior to participation by a special needs student-athlete, coach or official, the state association should be contacted to determine reasonable accommodations.


If they're going to let a wheelchair be on the field, why not a crutch?
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Old Mon May 09, 2011, 08:19pm
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Nearest thing I could find in the Case Book...
Where can I find and get access to the case book? Serious question.
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Old Mon May 09, 2011, 09:52pm
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Where can I find and get access to the case book? Serious question.
You should get a rule book and a case book each year when you register. Umpire manuals are printed every other year.

Ask your assignor for the books.
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Old Mon May 09, 2011, 09:57pm
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Where can I find and get access to the case book? Serious question.
When you do high school or FED ball you should be issued a rule book, case book and umpire's manual every year. If you are registered with NFHS you can also access them online.

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Old Mon May 09, 2011, 10:32pm
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When you do high school or FED ball you should be issued a rule book, case book and umpire's manual every year. If you are registered with NFHS you can also access them online.

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Many states only send rule and case books every other year or to first year officials.

I work in Indiana and Illinois and they are both on the two year cycle.

Check with your state high school association. Some associations pay for their members to belong to the NFHS and this gives you access to the current book in pdf form for no additional cost (Indiana pays our NFHS dues out of our registration fees, Illinois does not)
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Old Mon May 09, 2011, 09:10pm
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If they're going to let a wheelchair be on the field, why not a crutch?
Well, I would like to know why the coach is using a crutch? Wheelchairs are more likely to be used by someone with a permanent or long-term disability where crutches are often a short-term solution to medical issues.

If this is an ADA issue, not a problem, the crutches are good to go. If not, the coach can coach when he gets better.
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Old Mon May 09, 2011, 11:57pm
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If this is an ADA issue, not a problem, the crutches are good to go. If not, the coach can coach when he gets better.
That's what I was thinking. Still, if I have my choice of running full speed into one or the other, I'll take the crutch!

LIBlue, besides the ways already mentioned, you can still get Case Books the old fashioned way- NFHS sells them outright. If I remember, they're about $6-$7, but they have a minimum order of something like $12...so you might have to buy two!
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In the ISF rules I found this:

RULE 4. COACHES, PLAYERS AND SUBSTITUTES.
Sec. 1. COACHES.

c4. One coach can have in his possession in the coach’s box, a score book, pen or pencil and an indicator, all of which shall be used for score keeping or record keeping purposes only.


I don't think crutches (or wheelchairs) are mentioned in those rules. Is it possible to use crutches for score or record keeping? Don't think so; therefor not on my field!
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Old Tue May 10, 2011, 08:14am
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In the ISF rules I found this:

RULE 4. COACHES, PLAYERS AND SUBSTITUTES.
Sec. 1. COACHES.

c4. One coach can have in his possession in the coach’s box, a score book, pen or pencil and an indicator, all of which shall be used for score keeping or record keeping purposes only.


I don't think crutches (or wheelchairs) are mentioned in those rules. Is it possible to use crutches for score or record keeping? Don't think so; therefor not on my field!
So what do you do if he starts score keeping in the dirt with the crutch?
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Old Tue May 10, 2011, 11:45am
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In the ISF rules I found this:

RULE 4. COACHES, PLAYERS AND SUBSTITUTES.
Sec. 1. COACHES.

c4. One coach can have in his possession in the coach’s box, a score book, pen or pencil and an indicator, all of which shall be used for score keeping or record keeping purposes only.

I don't think crutches (or wheelchairs) are mentioned in those rules. Is it possible to use crutches for score or record keeping? Don't think so; therefor not on my field!
Well, you are lucky as to not be affected by the ludicrous and litigious bureaucracy those in the U.S. refer to as a government.
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Old Tue May 10, 2011, 04:57pm
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Well, you are lucky as to not be affected by the ludicrous and litigious bureaucracy those in the U.S. refer to as a government.
Well I guess you guys can always say that it might be too dangerous for a coach with crutches on the field: he can't properly move away for a batted ball. Since we, ump's, are responsible for the safety of all on our field (in the US more than over here) that will hold out in court...
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Old Tue May 10, 2011, 07:13pm
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Well I guess you guys can always say that it might be too dangerous for a coach with crutches on the field: he can't properly move away for a batted ball. Since we, ump's, are responsible for the safety of all on our field (in the US more than over here) that will hold out in court...
In the US, any baby who doesn't get his/her way, they sue whomever is in their way.

In the US, when someone gets hurt, they call an ambulance.....right after they call a lawyer.

In the US, there are even TV commercials where lawyers advertise to get you every penny then can if you think you have been wronged.

In the US, there is no such thing as an accident. Someone is always to blame whether they were responsible for someone's stupidity or not.

In the US, a thief can break into your house, trip over a loose board, fall down the stairs and not only sue the homeowner, but actually win!

And to show you how the public thinks, there is a football season ticket holder at the University of Kentucky who has hearing problems and he is suing the university to put closed captioning of all announcements on the scoreboards and all monitors in the stadium.

Great country America! Live the dream, trip on a sidewalk and sue somebody!
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