Leap, Crow Hop vs replant

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

That is true, it is not a "replant" rule. I' sure to the chagrin of others, ASA uses the terms leap and crow hop as a matter of giving the coach a familiar reference. The leap is quite definitive, but "crow hop" is not.

I believe the term "replant" isn't used is because the term crow hop is used for any act where the pivot foot plant immediately prior to the delivery is not in contact with the pitcher's plate. Some pitchers do not replant, but slide forward off the PP prior to beginning the pitch and the term crow hop eliminates the argument that it wasn't a replant. Yeah, I know it is still in IP, but you also know how coaches can be

Mike, you might have missed my point (I'm thinking). What I took away from OKC was that once you have started your pitch (separating hands) and dragged away, that's a legal pitch; that is is not possible to "crow-drag" if it were, because ASA does not have that in their rule set. This was explicitly brought into the discussion to show a distinction from the NCAA definition of legal pitching (where one can be illegal by replanting after a legal drag).

Is the crow hop a bad term? Yes, because "hop" can be confused with leap. The crow hop then is "replanting" in front of the pitcher's plate before you begin the pitch (the the NFHS uses the word "replant" in what a crow hop is). So are we saying the same thing?

A crow hop is a replant, but (by NCAA definition) not all replants are crow hops. And there is some thought of removing the word crow hop from the NCAA book (not as a rule change, but editorial change).

Now, if you want to talk "leaping" . . . we can examine how the different codes define leaping.