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Old Thu Apr 28, 2011, 11:29am
IRISHMAFIA IRISHMAFIA is offline
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Originally Posted by JefferMC View Post
Yes, Rule 6 does include "Illegal Pitch". 6.1.1 Penalty: An illegal pitch is called.
Reread, I said there was no Article (Paragraph). Didn't say it was not used.

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Sure, they're acceptable terms, as they do have rule book definitions. The reason I would avoid them is because by avoiding them you avoid the issue that someone wants to argue whether something is a "crow hop" or a "leap" when that matters not. It seems to me it simplifies life to go to the simple statements as written in the rule (i.e. that the pivot foot must stay on the ground and the pitcher may not push off from anything but the pitchers plate) and not use terms that so many have misused and misunderstand.
I agree with the explanation, but I can guarantee you that if a coach rightfully requests whether the IP was a "crow hop" or "leap", you need to discern one from the other. That it "matters not" isn't going to go far and may be quite detrimental.

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The fact that they're used in the Umpire's Manual or Case Book means nothing to a coach, because those are books he's not even really SUPPOSED to have read, vs. the one he should have read but hasn't.
I think you really underestimate some coaches and their willingness to at least try and learn. And what makes you think these publications are not available to coaches? All three publications umpires receive are available on-line to members.
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