ASA - No runs will score if....

[LIUmp]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

If the run scored before the interference

But what about AFTER? NY state softball organization I umpire for gives us a test every year and one of the questions last year said AFTER - and they said it can happen. I can't figure out when. Except for the case I wrote about above. So my questions really are:

Can a run score AFTER interference on a runner is declared? If so, how?

What is the correct ruling in the above play?

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by LIBlueASA

But what about AFTER? NY state softball organization I umpire for gives us a test every year and one of the questions last year said AFTER - and they said it can happen. I can't figure out when. Except for the case I wrote about above. So my questions really are:

Can a run score AFTER interference on a runner is declared? If so, how?

What is the correct ruling in the above play?

You have been given the correct ruling on the original play. The offensive coach has the option of the result of the play or to negate the entire play and receive the penalty for the illegal pitch. In "negate the play", that means the interference never happened.

Any coach, even the purest idiots, would take the IP penalty in this case; R1 scores, R2 to 3rd, B4 (has to be 4, because you had an out, right!!) returns to bat with a ball added to the count. Because the result of the play scores no runs and adds an out!!

[Tru_in_Blu]

R1 scores, R2 to 3rd, B4 (has to be 4, because you had an out, right!!)

If in the 1st inning. What if it was the 6th inning and B9 led off by making an out?

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

R1 scores, R2 to 3rd, B4 (has to be 4, because you had an out, right!!)

If in the 1st inning. What if it was the 6th inning and B9 led off by making an out?

In the approved nomenclature for writing a case play, B9 is the 9th batter in the current inning; it has nothing to do with the lineup. In the 6th, B1 leads off; just like B1 leads off in every inning.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

In the approved nomenclature for writing a case play, B9 is the 9th batter in the current inning; it has nothing to do with the lineup. In the 6th, B1 leads off; just like B1 leads off in every inning.

Well, I've learned something again. Thanx.

[txump81]

What is the correct way to handle this?

R1 (on 1b-I hate having to clarify this). BU calls an IP and batter gets a strike. Time is called. HC is in the 3rd base coaches box. Do you wait for BU to come all the way from B to talk to the coach, or do you go to HC as PU and just tell him/her there was an IP, what do you want? Just curious from a game(time) management/don't want to step on partner's toes angle.

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by txump81

What is the correct way to handle this?

R1 (on 1b-I hate having to clarify this). BU calls an IP and batter gets a strike. Time is called. HC is in the 3rd base coaches box. Do you wait for BU to come all the way from B to talk to the coach, or do you go to HC as PU and just tell him/her there was an IP, what do you want? Just curious from a game(time) management/don't want to step on partner's toes angle.

What is there to talk about?
IP -
After the Strike, if PU hasn't seen your indication, call time, signal and say Illegal pitch and send runner to 2nd.

[LIUmp]

Suffolk Board of Softball Officials Association - (Brightwaters, NY) - powered by LeagueLineup.com

look under "2010 test most missed". It is question number 36.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

You have been given the correct ruling on the original play. The offensive coach has the option of the result of the play or to negate the entire play and receive the penalty for the illegal pitch. In "negate the play", that means the interference never happened.

Any coach, even the purest idiots, would take the IP penalty in this case; R1 scores, R2 to 3rd, B4 (has to be 4, because you had an out, right!!) returns to bat with a ball added to the count. Because the result of the play scores no runs and adds an out!!

For that matter, there are many umpires who will not even give a coach the chance to screw it up and just enforce the IP unless asked otherwise.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by LIBlueASA

Can a run score AFTER interference on a runner is declared? If so, how?

I can't think of anything. Anybody?
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[Tru_in_Blu]

Interference always trumps obstruction, right?

What if 2 different players are involved?

R1 on 2B and batter hits safely to RF. R1 obstructed between 3B & home, would have scored easily, but headed back to 3B.

Meantime, throw from F9 to F4 who is bumped by BR as she's making a throw to F2. Interference, DB, BR declared out.

Does R1 get to score? Number of outs matter?