2011 ASA Rule Changes with Comments

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Kind of weird to ask someone if they are saying something... and then WOW them for saying it when you weren't sure they were saying it in the first place.

So, Mike, what are you saying here?

No - I don't believe any umpire out there would toss a bat for someone's name being on it. REPAINTING, and writing your name on with a marker are two wildly different things.

I would like to think you are 100% correct. Unfortunately, we all know that some read rules strictly in black and white and not all have the benefit of additional information as how they are to be applied. And though that shouldn't be the case, in some areas it just is.

I can understand and believe an umpire may get talked into ruling in an inaccurate manner by a coach or player. I don't think it should happen, but it will.

[ASA Ump MN]

I don't like this rule from the start as it is an indication the umpire is not doing their job.

We had a strange one the other night!
And yes I agree good game management should take care of the problem before it happens. Normally it's just an outfielder trying to sneak in to far on a female batter and I'll back him up a bit, problem solved ....
BUT in our Co-Ed game with a male batter up, just before/as the pitcher started his delivery the 2nd basemen took off sprinting into the outfield. He was clearly not in the infield when the ball was batted and almost made the play before the outfielder called him off. I didn't have time to kill it IMO. Even more surprisingly the manager of the batting team said to me immediately "we would like to appeal the defensive having an un-even about of male players in the outfield"
Luckily my BU knew the rule as my first thought was the offense could take the result or do the AB over, like pitching the wrong ball in Co-Ed.
The defense mildly freaked out for a bit until explained to them and then verified by rule book after the game.

And as far as determining where the infield and outfield are defined, that's my judgment...PERIOD!

Anyway, great forum here!

Thanks Much~ Minnesota~

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by ASA Ump MN

Luckily my BU knew the rule as my first thought was the offense could take the result or do the AB over, like pitching the wrong ball in Co-Ed.
The defense mildly freaked out for a bit until explained to them and then verified by rule book after the game.

And as far as determining where the infield and outfield are defined, that's my judgment...PERIOD!

Anyway, great forum here!

Thanks Much~ Minnesota~

Uhhh, no that is wrong. It is either the result of the play or the batter is awarded 1B & any runner forced, advanced.

[ASA Ump MN]

Like I said, the Base-Umpire knew the rule, it was just my original thought that popped into my head, when the offense protested, that it may be the same as the wrong ball violation in Co-Ed. I would have looked it up real quick anyway as I've never had it happen in my illustrious 3 year career.