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Old Mon Oct 04, 2010, 11:47am
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You're kidding, right? The run does not score if the batter-runner is out before reaching first base. The BR was out the moment she entered the dugout, therefore the run doesn't score. I'm not making up a rule here. A rule that says you end at 6 runs doesn't mean you throw out all other rules. (Would you score the 6th run if a runner crossed the plate before BR was thrown out at 1st for the 3rd out? Of course not... this sitch is EXACTLY the same as far as enforcement goes).
No I'm not kidding. The league has a rule that says that the inning ends when the sixth run is scored. It doesn't say quite what that means. Consider this:

With no outs and the bases loaded, the BR hits a sac fly for the 6th run. Unfortunately, the runner at third leaves early. The runner scores and everyone runs off the field from the offense. The defense then appeals that the runner at third left early. Yes, he did and is out. Do you then call another runner out to end the inning?

You are making up rules here to deal with the league rule. I say make up good ones if you have to make up rules.
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Old Mon Oct 04, 2010, 12:32pm
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With no outs and the bases loaded, the BR hits a sac fly for the 6th run. Unfortunately, the runner at third leaves early. The runner scores and everyone runs off the field from the offense. The defense then appeals that the runner at third left early. Yes, he did and is out. Do you then call another runner out to end the inning?
For what? How in the world is this a similar situation. I can't imagine what you're trying to call a 3rd out for, but no, I would not - there's no reason to.

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You are making up rules here to deal with the league rule. I say make up good ones if you have to make up rules.
I am not making up any rules. The league has a rule that says the inning is over when the 6th run scores. The 6th run never scored. I've given you the rule that applies. Please tell me why you think that just because the league has a rule about how many runs can score in an inning, you need to throw out the rest of the existing rules. This makes no sense.

It's very simple. A BR who is awarded first base on a base-on-balls is out if she leaves the field of play without going to first. Right? And a run cannot score on a play where the 3rd out is made on a BR before she reaches first. Very simple, and no inventing of rules.
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For what? How in the world is this a similar situation. I can't imagine what you're trying to call a 3rd out for, but no, I would not - there's no reason to.
Sure there is, the runner who is supposed to be on second is in the dugout. What I'm guessing you'd do, though I'd like you to state for certain, is call time and return the runners to base after the appeal? Is that correct?
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Sure there is, the runner who is supposed to be on second is in the dugout. What I'm guessing you'd do, though I'd like you to state for certain, is call time and return the runners to base after the appeal? Is that correct?
Absolutely.
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Old Mon Oct 04, 2010, 01:13pm
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Absolutely.
By what rule?
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By what rule?
You seem to have this one backward too...

You don't need a rule to not rule someone out. If you think this player should be out, there must be a rule that tells you this player is out for doing something. This player has not done anything to be called out for.
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You seem to have this one backward too...

You don't need a rule to not rule someone out. If you think this player should be out, there must be a rule that tells you this player is out for doing something. This player has not done anything to be called out for.
If the league didn't have a six run rule, you'd call him out right? 8-7-U?

To fork this thread a little since I'll be offline shortly:
To make this a little worse for your position, suppose that we have the bases loaded with no outs and the Batter gets ball 4. The runner from 3rd comes home and scores. Then the runners from 2nd and 1st (having legally advanced) run off the field (what with it being 6 runs and all). The the batter runner runs off the field. Run scores? If you have to make it up (and you do), make it up in the way it ought to be called.
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