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Old Fri Sep 03, 2010, 08:52am
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It is not a force out if there were runners only on 2nd and 3rd as in the OP.
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Old Fri Sep 03, 2010, 10:47am
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It is not a force out if there were runners only on 2nd and 3rd as in the OP.

Cecil, The "force out" is the fact that once both runners passed the committment line, then, by rule, they are "forced" to continue to the second home plate. If they go back to 3rd base, then, again, by rule, are out.

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Old Fri Sep 03, 2010, 11:17am
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Cecil, The "force out" is the fact that once both runners passed the committment line, then, by rule, they are "forced" to continue to the second home plate. If they go back to 3rd base, then, again, by rule, are out.

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But it is a timing play, no?
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Old Fri Sep 03, 2010, 11:44am
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But it is a timing play, no?
What's your point?

Mike - I don't see this as being odd at all. Without the tinkered rule, both runners would be heading for home and F2 would be able to tag both.
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What's your point?

Mike - I don't see this as being odd at all. Without the tinkered rule, both runners would be heading for home and F2 would be able to tag both.
Or, they could stop and get in a run-down and one or more could be safe, score, etc.
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Old Fri Sep 03, 2010, 12:53pm
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What's your point?

Mike - I don't see this as being odd at all. Without the tinkered rule, both runners would be heading for home and F2 would be able to tag both.
Was just being pedantic, it's not a force out.
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Old Fri Sep 03, 2010, 12:22pm
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Cecil, The "force out" is the fact that once both runners passed the committment line, then, by rule, they are "forced" to continue to the second home plate. If they go back to 3rd base, then, again, by rule, are out.

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OK that's true. As I said earlier, passing the line is the key.
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Old Fri Sep 03, 2010, 05:26pm
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STOP!!!

I did not say it was a force out, but "handled" as a force out.

Does anyone actually READ what is typed?
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Old Fri Sep 03, 2010, 07:34pm
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Mike, are you asking this question because I'm in Burlington this weekend?

Answer is 1.
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Old Fri Sep 03, 2010, 08:06pm
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Mike, are you asking this question because I'm in Burlington this weekend?

Answer is 1.
No, it wasn't because you are in Burlington.

It is because an umpire ruled #2 on such a play.

When I get these questions (that are not part of any protest), I try to put myself in the umpire's position and work back from the call to see what s/he may have been thinking to come to the conclusion s/he did.
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No, it wasn't because you are in Burlington.

It is because an umpire ruled #2 on such a play.

When I get these questions (that are not part of any protest), I try to put myself in the umpire's position and work back from the call to see what s/he may have been thinking to come to the conclusion s/he did.
So, back to the OP, what became of that situation?

Whether it's two home plates or just one plate and a scoring/safe line, I can think of no rules code where the fielder would have to step on home plate twice to get two outs on this.
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STOP!!!

I did not say it was a force out, but "handled" as a force out.

Does anyone actually READ what is typed?
My fault, reading fragments instead of all. Reminded by Serg.

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Cecil, The "force out" is the fact that once both runners passed the committment line, then, by rule, they are "forced" to continue to the second home plate. If they go back to 3rd base, then, again, by rule, are out.

Serg

OK that's true. As I said earlier, passing the line is the key. "
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Old Sat Sep 04, 2010, 09:30am
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My fault, reading fragments instead of all. Reminded by Serg.
Just didn't want it to get out of control. Too often threads take a turn away from the point and I just wanted to avoid that.

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Old Sat Sep 04, 2010, 10:13am
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Too often threads take a turn away from the point and I just wanted to avoid that.

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Really! On this forum??
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Really! On this forum??
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