ASA Senior Ball - Second Plate

[Dakota]

Personally, my answer is 4.

[SergioJ]

Okay, I'll take a long-shot at this.

Since both runners passed the commitment line, and since the second home plate replaces the "tagging" of the runner, I vote for #1, double play. My thinking (huh?) is that this would be the equivalent to two runners coming in to home plate and the catcher tags both runners prior to either of them touching home plate.

Now Mike, I'm hoping that since you only gave us 4 choices, the answer is one of them and not a 5th choice that you left out. Or is the 5th choice R2 not only "caught up" with R1, but also passed him?


Serg

[celebur]

Originally Posted by SergioJ

Or is the 5th choice R2 not only "caught up" with R1, but also passed him?

There would still be two outs though--R2 out for passing, R1 out on the commitment play.

Around my neck of the woods, I only see two home plates in a variant of slo-pitch where the catcher must play the original plate and the runner(s) must go for the second plate. In effect, the second plate acts as the scoring line (safe line) in coed slo-pitch.

[BretMan]

I can't really see any other alternative under the rules than calling both runners out on this play.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by BretMan

I can't really see any other alternative under the rules than calling both runners out on this play.

I agree. As the rule is written, both should be out.

It just seems strange that on a play designed to be handled as a "force out" you can get more than one player out on a single act of touching one base.

However, by rule, the defense has no alternative since they cannot tag the runner. What would be expected, that the catcher touch the plate for one out, step off and then touch the plate a second time for the second runner?

This is a perfect example of what happens when you tinker with the rules of the game.

[CecilOne]

It is not a force out if there were runners only on 2nd and 3rd as in the OP.

[SergioJ]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

It is not a force out if there were runners only on 2nd and 3rd as in the OP.

Cecil, The "force out" is the fact that once both runners passed the committment line, then, by rule, they are "forced" to continue to the second home plate. If they go back to 3rd base, then, again, by rule, are out.

Serg

[IRISHMAFIA]

STOP!!!

I did not say it was a force out, but "handled" as a force out.

Does anyone actually READ what is typed?

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Personally, my answer is 4.

That was the one I was going with!