ASA Appeal for Leaving Early

[IRISHMAFIA]

R1, no out. Batter hits a deep, but high fly ball to F8 in LC.

In his eagerness, the BR rounds 1B passing R1 who is holding the base to advance after the catch.

You, the BU, calls BR out for the passing and R1 takes off to 2B prior to the ball being touched and caught by F8.

F8 returns ball to F6 who immediately throws the ball to F3 for a live ball appeal of R1 leaving early.

As the BU, what is your response to the appeal?

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

R1, no out. Batter hits a deep, but high fly ball to F8 in LC.

In his eagerness, the BR rounds 1B passing R1 who is holding the base to advance after the catch.

You, the BU, calls BR out for the passing and R1 takes off to 2B prior to the ball being touched and caught by F8.

F8 returns ball to F6 who immediately throws the ball to F3 for a live ball appeal of R1 leaving early.

As the BU, what is your response to the appeal?

Out

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

R1, no out. Batter hits a deep, but high fly ball to F8 in LC.

In his eagerness, the BR rounds 1B passing R1 who is holding the base to advance after the catch.

You, the BU, calls BR out for the passing and R1 takes off to 2B prior to the ball being touched and caught by F8.

F8 returns ball to F6 who immediately throws the ball to F3 for a live ball appeal of R1 leaving early.

As the BU, what is your response to the appeal?

Are you implying that the BR being out before the catch migh have made a difference?

[DeputyUICHousto]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

R1, no out. Batter hits a deep, but high fly ball to F8 in LC.

In his eagerness, the BR rounds 1B passing R1 who is holding the base to advance after the catch.

You, the BU, calls BR out for the passing and R1 takes off to 2B prior to the ball being touched and caught by F8.

F8 returns ball to F6 who immediately throws the ball to F3 for a live ball appeal of R1 leaving early.

As the BU, what is your response to the appeal?

One has no bearing on the other. There are two infractions here. The batter/runner is out when he passes the runner. The runners is still required to properly run the bases. Tagging up correctly is still required.

[MD Longhorn]

Out. The only think the batter's out changes is that if the ball is dropped, R1 is not forced to 2nd.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

Out

I agree.....but with Mike, there's usually a catch (and not the one made by F8)

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by andy

i agree.....but with mike, there's usually a catch (and not the one made by f8)

:d :d

[youngump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

R1, no out. Batter hits a deep, but high fly ball to F8 in LC.

In his eagerness, the BR rounds 1B passing R1 who is holding the base to advance after the catch.

You, the BU, calls BR out for the passing and R1 takes off to 2B prior to the ball being touched and caught by F8.

F8 returns ball to F6 who immediately throws the ball to F3 for a live ball appeal of R1 leaving early.

As the BU, what is your response to the appeal?

Two ideas:
1. This is too straightforward for Mike to post without a catch.
2. He makes a point of using BU a couple of times.

So, I'm thinking that for some reason the BR being out makes this the PU's appeal. I can't see how you'd get there though, and I don't think I'd take much grief for the out call I'd make.
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[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by youngump

Two ideas:
1. This is too straightforward for Mike to post without a catch.
2. He makes a point of using BU a couple of times.

So, I'm thinking that for some reason the BR being out makes this the PU's appeal. I can't see how you'd get there though, and I don't think I'd take much grief for the out call I'd make.

Tag ups at 1st are BU resp.; even if BU knows about the other out.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Tag ups at 1st are BU resp.; even if BU knows about the other out.

That's why I couldn't see how to get there.
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[MD Longhorn]

So ... are we all just waiting for the Irish hammer to fall and show us where we're wrong?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

So ... are we all just waiting for the Irish hammer to fall and show us where we're wrong?

Nope, I would rule it as an out.

8.7.F and 8.8.L make no exceptions if the player who batted the fly ball is ruled out prior to the catch.

Just poking around curious as to any question which may have been raised on such a play.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Nope, I would rule it as an out.

8.7.F and 8.8.L make no exceptions if the player who batted the fly ball is ruled out prior to the catch.

Just poking around curious as to any question which may have been raised on such a play.

It's a good thing they don't since we call the BR out on the infield fly all the time before the catch.
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[Dakota]

Originally Posted by youngump

It's a good thing they don't since we call the BR out on the infield fly all the time before the catch.

Yes, which leads to all manner of confusion regarding tagging up (at least on the part of coaches).

[Andy]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Yes, which leads to all manner of confusion regarding tagging up (at least on the part of coaches).

But...but...the infield fly is a dead ball, right Blue??????