Missed 1B - double 1B appeal?

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Does passage of time matter? In the OP, the appeal appears to have been made nearly immediately. What if the BR has time to stand, dust off, but still has not lost contact with the white bag or touched the orange. At that point, someone throws the ball to F3, who tags the BR voicing the appeal. Still honor the appeal?

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

That is another scenario which has no bearing on my original response.

Originally Posted by Dakota

I know, hence, my question.

Hello... well, does it?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Hello... well, does it?

And I thought I didn't have a life

It could. It depends on what you are talking about. You changed the scenario to the ball being in someone else's hands.

In SP, the PU should have declared "time" if there is no immediate action by the defense to make an appeal. Once the ball is dead and the runner is standing on the base, no appeal is available.

In FP, where you people insist on have a "live ball" game (which it really isn't), the appeal would have to be in a expeditious manner or I'm moving on with the game.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

...You changed the scenario to the ball being in someone else's hands.

That matters? Why?

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

...In SP, the PU should have declared "time" if there is no immediate action by the defense to make an appeal. Once the ball is dead and the runner is standing on the base, no appeal is available.

In FP, where you people insist on have a "live ball" game (which it really isn't),

Yadda, yadda,

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

In FP, ... the appeal would have to be in a expeditious manner or I'm moving on with the game.

I agree, if by "expeditious manner" you mean time to determine no appeal is in the offing.

However, you based your original reply on the use of the words "passed" and "returned" in the rules. The meanings of those words do not change with time, so if the appeal is not made quickly, what did the runner do that invalidates the appeal made after the coach yells, ball thrown around, etc. (assuming we are talking that inconveniently live-ball game)?