D3K ball off chest protector lands fair

[vcblue]

Just trying to make sure I have the correct ASA rule for this situation. Saw it in a college game this weekend. I believe GT vs Oregon (1st game).

D3K ball off F2 chest protector and lands fair up the 1st base line top of box. B/R kicks the ball. No interference called.

In ASA I believe this is covered under 8-7-L: A runner is out... when a runner intentionally kicks a fair ball that an infielder missed. Because the blues rule no intent they did not call interference.

Am I correct or is there another rule that covers this play? Or, should this have been ruled interference?

[youngump]

Originally Posted by vcblue

Just trying to make sure I have the correct ASA rule for this situation. Saw it in a college game this weekend. I believe GT vs Oregon (1st game).

D3K ball off F2 chest protector and lands fair up the 1st base line top of box. B/R kicks the ball. No interference called.

In ASA I believe this is covered under 8-7-L: A runner is out... when a runner intentionally kicks a fair ball that an infielder missed. Because the blues rule no intent they did not call interference.

Am I correct or is there another rule that covers this play? Or, should this have been ruled interference?

Not sure about D3K interference as we have this discussion a bit here and no one has made an explanation that has crystallized it for me. But this is not a "fair" ball any more than it would have been a foul ball if touched in foul territory.
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Krissy

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by youngump

Not sure about D3K interference as we have this discussion a bit here and no one has made an explanation that has crystallized it for me. But this is not a "fair" ball any more than it would have been a foul ball if touched in foul territory.

Uh ... what?

It's not fair or foul unless it's HIT. This ball wasn't hit.

OP - no interference unless you judge intent.

[Big Slick]

Originally Posted by vcblue

Just trying to make sure I have the correct ASA rule for this situation. Saw it in a college game this weekend. I believe GT vs Oregon (1st game).

D3K ball off F2 chest protector and lands fair up the 1st base line top of box. B/R kicks the ball. No interference called.

In ASA I believe this is covered under 8-7-L: A runner is out... when a runner intentionally kicks a fair ball that an infielder missed. Because the blues rule no intent they did not call interference.

Am I correct or is there another rule that covers this play? Or, should this have been ruled interference?

12.2.3 The batter-runner may not interfere with the catcher’s attempt to field a third strike.
Note: If both players’ actions are appropriate to the situation and contact
could not be avoided, it is inadvertent contact and neither interference nor
obstruction.
A.R. 12.2.3: It is not interference if the batter-runner unintentionally kicks the ball that had deflected off the catcher who attempted to field a dropped third strike.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Uh ... what?

It's not fair or foul unless it's HIT. This ball wasn't hit.

Yeah, we just said the same thing.
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SexyVita

[Tex]

In both ASA and NFHS this is an out.

Remember we don't measure intent anymore.
ASA (8-2-F) and NFHS (8-2-6) "Batter-Runner is out if she interfers with a dropped third strike".

[vcblue]

Thanks Tex. Actually I finally found it and was coming to report. Big Slick what rule set are you referencing?

[Az.Ump]

Originally Posted by vcblue

Thanks Tex. Actually I finally found it and was coming to report. Big Slick what rule set are you referencing?

NCAA, if I may be permitted.

Paul

[MD Longhorn]

Read the OP again guys... he's asking about the ASA rule. (Nevermind that this would not have been the ruleset in place for the game he's talking about! )

OP - you ask about the ASA rule... are you aware that NCAA does not use ASA rules?

[vcblue]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Read the OP again guys... he's asking about the ASA rule. (Nevermind that this would not have been the ruleset in place for the game he's talking about! )

OP - you ask about the ASA rule... are you aware that NCAA does not use ASA rules?

NCAA doesn't use ASA rules? No really As a "student of the game" I like to watch NCAA games. When I see a call/ no call I always think about it under ASA rule because that is what I umpire.

Yes ASA, and ASA rule ASA (8-2-F-6) States a B/R is out if she interferes with a D3K.

[ronald]

guys,

early in the year, Irishmafia, posted a link to asa's rules and clarification plays. it deals with this issue. re-read, re-think and followup. it not a no brainer.