New rules learned in fall ball

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by BretMan

Me: "That's my judgment. I can award any base that negates the effect of the obstruction".

Coach: "You can't just give them a run like that!".

Me: "Yes I can!".

Ugh... Caught absolute HELL tonight. 2 outs, top of 7th, visitors down by a run after coming back from a 9-1 deficit. Close play at the plate, but the runner had to slow down because F2 was in the base path before the ball got there. He gets tagged out about half a step from the plate, which he probably would've made had F2 not been in the base path. I kill it, award home, and all HELL broke loose.

Home team ended up winning anyway, but I think I felt like wade did a couple years ago.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Close play at the plate, but the runner had to slow down because F2 was in the base path before the ball got there. He gets tagged out about half a step from the plate, which he probably would've made had F2 not been in the base path. I kill it, award home, and all HELL broke loose.

Where was the runner when he checked up?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Where was the runner when he checked up?

6-8' from the plate or so.

[wadeintothem]

*cough*cough*cough* badcall*cough*cough*letemplay*cough*picken boogers *cough * cough * cough *OOO * cough *cough *cough * looken for trouble * cough * cough

Damn allergies.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

*cough*cough*cough* badcall*cough*cough*letemplay*cough*picken boogers *cough * cough * cough *OOO * cough *cough *cough * looken for trouble * cough * cough

Damn allergies.

Need a Benadryl?

I had at least 3-4 people go up to the field supervisor, asking for my name so they could file complaints.

Even spectators!

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Need a Benadryl?

I had at least 3-4 people go up to the field supervisor, asking for my name so they could file complaints.

Even spectators!

Good, there will be that many more people who will be educated on the rules of softball.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Good, the will be that many more people who will be educated on the rules of softball.

ATTEMPTED to be educated on the rules of softball

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Good, the will be that many more people who will be educated on the rules of softball.

Wishful thinking, Mike.

I'm surprised I haven't received any phone calls yet. I already called my assignor after the game and explained everything to him. Unfortunately, the director of the league is not known for standing his ground when players and coaches start calling and complaining.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Ugh... Caught absolute HELL tonight. 2 outs, top of 7th, visitors down by a run after coming back from a 9-1 deficit. Close play at the plate, but the runner had to slow down because F2 was in the base path before the ball got there. He gets tagged out about half a step from the plate, which he probably would've made had F2 not been in the base path. I kill it, award home, and all HELL broke loose.

Home team ended up winning anyway, but I think I felt like wade did a couple years ago.

You know, I am absolutely opposed to verbalizing obstruction; in 99% of the cases, it stops play (and we know that is why they do it in baseball; if the play stops, awards are so much simpler!!).

But, this is one case that I think you should point and yell "THAT'S OBSTRUCTION!!" at the top of your lungs, as the play develops, so that you made the call before the part where everyone sees the runner apparently tagged out.

It won't change that they hate you called it, it won't change that they want to be able to block the base path in that case, it won't change that they swear it didn't happen as you called it. But, it takes away part of the venom when it is assumed you made it up after the play just to screw THAT team.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

You know, I am absolutely opposed to verbalizing obstruction; in 99% of the cases, it stops play (and we know that is why they do it in baseball; if the play stops, awards are so much simpler!!).

But, this is one case that I think you should point and yell "THAT'S OBSTRUCTION!!" at the top of your lungs, as the play develops, so that you made the call before the part where everyone sees the runner apparently tagged out.

It won't change that they hate you called it, it won't change that they want to be able to block the base path in that case, it won't change that they swear it didn't happen as you called it. But, it takes away part of the venom when it is assumed you made it up after the play just to screw THAT team.

The exact sequence was: saw the OBS, barely got my arm out, saw the tag. Immediately, without hesitation, at the top of my lungs: "DEAD BALL! DEAD BALL!" A lot of cheering, so I had to say it twice, maybe three times before anyone knew what was happening, despite the fact that I'm not exactly "quiet." "Obstruction by the catcher!" Point to the plate with left hand. "Runner, you get home!"

I sold the hell out of that call, but still took crap. Oh well, that's all one can do, really. I knew all hell was going to break loose as soon as I saw the catcher drifting into the base path.

Had an obstruction last night, in which I protected the batter-runner to 2B. Gave the DDB signal, and she saw it. When she got to 2B, and time was called (slow-pitch), she asked "I get third, right? That's automatic when you gave that signal, right?" I said "no, I only had you protected towards second because that's as far as you would have gotten in my judgement." She tried the line that it wasn't judgement based, it was an automatic award. I told her she needed to read the rules, and if she harped anymore, the night was over for her. Women playing coed ball shut up really fast when you say that.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Had an obstruction last night, in which I protected the batter-runner to 2B. Gave the DDB signal, and she saw it. When she got to 2B, and time was called (slow-pitch), she asked "I get third, right? That's automatic when you gave that signal, right?" I said "no, I only had you protected towards second because that's as far as you would have gotten in my judgement." She tried the line that it wasn't judgement based, it was an automatic award. I told her she needed to read the rules, and if she harped anymore, the night was over for her. Women playing coed ball shut up really fast when you say that.

Had a player round 1B and get bumped by F3 enough to where he got knocked to the ground 10' from 1B. A second later, the throw came in to F4 standing at 2B. The runner got up, dusted himself off, and casually trotted to 2B, where he was tagged and was told to return to 1B.

"I thought I automatically got 2B..."

Not even Willie Mays-Hayes would've made it to 2B.

[Andy]

16u FP this weekend. I am PU.

R1 at first, BR hits a shot to the right center gap. R1 rounds second, heads for third, great throw from F8 beats R1 by about two steps, but F5 can't handle the throw and the ball bounces away from her. R1 did not slide and sees the ball get away from F5. As R1 is rounding third, she brushes F5 still standing near third. The contact wasn't much, but it did cause R1 to break stride. My left arm goes out and R1 heads for home. F1 was backing up the play at third and easily retrieves the ball and throws home. F2 tags R1 about 6 feet before home.

DEAD BALL! OBS on F5, R1 back to third, BR back to second!

I start waiting and looking to see which coach is going to come out and want an explanation of the call. Nobody says a thing....players, coaches, fans...nothing.

I have a hard time believing that everybody there understands the OBS rule that well.....

Originally Posted by Andy

16u FP this weekend. I am PU.

R1 at first, BR hits a shot to the right center gap. R1 rounds second, heads for third, great throw from F8 beats R1 by about two steps, but F5 can't handle the throw and the ball bounces away from her. R1 did not slide and sees the ball get away from F5. As R1 is rounding third, she brushes F5 still standing near third. The contact wasn't much, but it did cause R1 to break stride. My left arm goes out and R1 heads for home. F1 was backing up the play at third and easily retrieves the ball and throws home. F2 tags R1 about 6 feet before home.

DEAD BALL! OBS on F5, R1 back to third, BR back to second!

I start waiting and looking to see which coach is going to come out and want an explanation of the call. Nobody says a thing....players, coaches, fans...nothing.

I have a hard time believing that everybody there understands the OBS rule that well.....

Are you sure you weren't being filmed for "The Twilight Zone" revivial movie?

[wadeintothem]

"Blue, youre not supposed to call them out for leaving early during fall ball. The whole purpose is for a college coach to time her with a stop watch."