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Old Tue Oct 20, 2009, 11:46pm
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More new/old rules learned tonight. Men's SP Fall Ball

If a runner leaves a base early on a caught fly ball, you do not recognize a subsequent appeal unless the defense makes a serious effort to retire that particular runner.

The umpire cannot call a batter out for stepping in the middle of the plate to hit while hitting the pitch in the championship game.

A batter isn't required to enter the BB when directed by the umpire if he is trying to find out how many HRs his team has available.

The pitcher cannot run up to the PP even if he comes to a complete stop while in contact with the PP prior to delivering the pitch.

Bases are awarded based upon the runners location when the ball leaves the field of play and, BTW, the award is two from the outfield, one from the infield.

Did I mention the umpire is required to call a ball if the pitcher does not present the ball?

Oh, and the best of the night, it is okay to have a bat with a crack if it is "longitudal" (their word, not mine).
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Old Tue Oct 20, 2009, 11:51pm
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Oh, and the best of the night, it is okay to have a bat with a crack if it is "longitudal" (their word, not mine).

Making up a rule and a word should count for some type of bonus points.
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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 01:14am
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From Websters Dictionary and Thesaurus; longitud'inal, of or in length; running or placed leghthwise; of longitude...
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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 06:40am
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From Websters Dictionary and Thesaurus; longitud'inal, of or in length; running or placed leghthwise; of longitude...

Hey, they were close.
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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 07:48am
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Hey, they were close.
Scrabble must be interesting with those guys...
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 07:51am
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More new/old rules learned tonight. Men's SP Fall Ball

If a runner leaves a base early on a caught fly ball, you do not recognize a subsequent appeal unless the defense makes a serious effort to retire that particular runner.
Wow...just...wow...wth?
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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 08:24am
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More new/old rules learned tonight. Men's SP Fall Ball

If a runner leaves a base early on a caught fly ball, you do not recognize a subsequent appeal unless the defense makes a serious effort to retire that particular runner.

The umpire cannot call a batter out for stepping in the middle of the plate to hit while hitting the pitch in the championship game.

A batter isn't required to enter the BB when directed by the umpire if he is trying to find out how many HRs his team has available.

The pitcher cannot run up to the PP even if he comes to a complete stop while in contact with the PP prior to delivering the pitch.

Bases are awarded based upon the runners location when the ball leaves the field of play and, BTW, the award is two from the outfield, one from the infield.

Did I mention the umpire is required to call a ball if the pitcher does not present the ball?

Oh, and the best of the night, it is okay to have a bat with a crack if it is "longitudal" (their word, not mine).
Man...you got schooled!!!!
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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 11:26am
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Man...you got schooled!!!!
Yeah, maybe you should talk to the state UIC and see about a couple of clinics...
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 12:12pm
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Man...you got schooled!!!!
The real sad part is:

1. The honestly believe they are right

2. I end most arguments just be giving them the date January 25th. That derails what little intelligent thought they may have thought they had at the time and the usually sit down when I tell them what it is, the next meeting of the local umpire association!
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Old Wed Oct 21, 2009, 11:48pm
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I also like giving them my number to call, so that when they call, they can tell me how I am a horrible human being and shouldn't be allowed to umpire 'that level of ball'. Best after a 12u Rec ball game ans then they can call me on my way to an NCAA game. Happened 3 times last year. Never failed to get a chuckle, at least out of me.
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Old Thu Oct 22, 2009, 12:45am
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Another rule learned tonight in my 7th grade girls FP game:

On a 3-2 pitch, if the ball comes in directly over the plate but at a height of the batter's eyes, and you call a ball, it's ok for the 12 year old pitcher to hold her hand up to her chest and, while the batter-runner is advancing to first base, loudly ask you from the pitching plate, "What's wrong with that pitch? It was right here, at her chest!"

When you call time to bring the coach over to explain to both of them that showing you up and arguing balls and strikes is not a wise thing to do, it's ok to not charge them a defensive conference while the coach has a "come to Jesus" discussion with his battery. Even at the insistance of the offensive coach.
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Old Thu Oct 22, 2009, 02:03am
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Found out last weekend that there's a new procedure for "getting it right" and a coach asking an umpire to get help.

Pitch comes in, F2 bobbles it, runner on second steals third, F2 throws and runner slides in on a close play. Base umpire calls her safe.

Defensive coach wants time and I grant it (I'm the plate umpire).

He comes out and asks me if it's okay for him to go talk to the base umpire to ask if the base umpire will check with me and see if I had something different.

Since it was late at night, the third straight game that evening and about 38 degrees with a good steady gust, I told him I'd save him the trouble. I didn't have anything any different than my partner had. Which was true, since the batter jumped out of the box and right in front of me when the tag attempt was made. It seemed kind of pointless to stand around in the cold while he goes out to talk to the base umpire, then the base umpire comes in to talk to me, just to tell him I don't have anything for him!

Next time, Coach, cut out the middle man! Go straight to the umpire that made the call!

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Old Thu Oct 22, 2009, 08:52am
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He comes out and asks me if it's okay for him to go talk to the base umpire to ask if the base umpire will check with me and see if I had something different.
Sounds like the coach is a lawyer by day.
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Old Thu Oct 22, 2009, 12:33pm
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He comes out and asks me if it's okay for him to go talk to the base umpire to ask if the base umpire will check with me and see if I had something different.
Worded like that, I'd just say "no".
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