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I do not have my rules books in front of me but it means the ball is dead and therefore if F1 goes ahead and pitches the ball, she is going to have one upset PU. MTD, Sr.
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Rule 10.6.10 (FP/MP) & 10.6.9 (SP & 16") I believe that "Do Not Pitch" is a suspension of play no different from "TIME OUT"; therefore "DEAD BALL" until "PLAY BALL" is declarded. |
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"Do not pitch" means only that; the ball is live, all other rules and violations remain in effect. You are also suspending your ability to call a 20 second violation when you hold the pitcher up. If a runner steps off, she is out. If the pitcher violates your "Do not pitch", THEN you kill the play, and direct the pitcher to NOT quickpitch again. "Time" or "Dead Ball" mean play is suspended; "Do not Pitch" is not one of those.
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Well, maybe.
Speaking ASA If the umpire is offering a DNP signal because the batter is not in the box, 10.4.C notes that this is a suspension of play and the definition of "TIME" is a term for a suspension of play. So, could such a signal by the umpire be taken as a suspension of play? Yeah, it is a stretch, but I've seen folks take longer trips to sell a point. All that aside, I agree with Steve's analogy of the situation and how it should be handled. |
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We all obviously live and ump in different worlds!!!
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Without considering this list complete, I would say 1) illegal pitch by pitcher, 2) quickpitch (no pitch) by pitcher), 3) request for "time" by either team (which may or may not be granted), 4) runner could illegally leave base prior to pitch, 5) batter can violate the 10 second rule by failing to enter the batter's box when directed, 6) offensive coach might leave the coaching box and effect an offensive conference, 7) live ball appeal (already noted), 8) pitcher might leave the circle, allowing baserunners to advance. Anyone else adding anything that can happen during a live ball with the ball in the circle in pitcher's possession??
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I don't understand how or where in the rules you keep coming back to "LIVE BALL"?
Maybe answering this question will help me sort it out.....how do you indicate to the pitcher that it is now ok to pitch? If you declare "PLAY" or "PLAY BALL" is that not an indication that the ball was "dead" and you're now making it "live"? Rule 6 Section 10 (& Section 9 for SP) clearly state that: "No pitch shall be declared when: A. The pitcher pitches during the suspension of play. ..." If you are indicating "Do not pitch" and the pitcher pitches, what is your call? If "Do not pitch" signal is not a suspension of play, then the pitch must be legal or illegal, no "NO PITCH". |
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In SP it really doesn't make a difference. And the more you argue this point as it pertains to FP, the closer you are just providing fuel for my LBR argument. Thank you. |
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The "Do Not Pitch" is simply used by the PU as a tool to keep the pitcher from a quick pitch; it isn't calling time or suspending any other part of play between every pitch. It is the PU's responsibility to manage the pace of the game, making sure the pitcher doesn't gain an unfair advantage over a batter that is operating within the rules. Live ball game; you keep the ball live whenever possible, but still manage the game.
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