force out question

[k2explorer]

A follow up question if I may. So I am the base umpire. I made the out call at first. three outs. The offensive team coach asks the plate ump if the run counted and he said yes. The other team didn't argue.

Do you think I should have gone up to the plate umpire and disputed his ruling? When the teams were changing sides I did mention to him I thought he was wrong. He assured me was right so I let it go as I didn't want to cause a scene on the field.

Thank you.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by k2explorer

A follow up question if I may. So I am the base umpire. I made the out call at first. three outs. The offensive team coach asks the plate ump if the run counted and he said yes. The other team didn't argue.

Do you think I should have gone up to the plate umpire and disputed his ruling? When the teams were changing sides I did mention to him I thought he was wrong. He assured me was right so I let it go as I didn't want to cause a scene on the field.

Thank you.

I had a similar situation in my first year umpiring. I'm the rookie, on the bases. We have runners on 3rd and 1st and one out. Batter hits a long fly ball to the OF. Runner at first must have thought there was no way an OF makes the catch, so he's running. Runner from third goes back, tags up and scores after the catch. Two outs. Runner from first knows he's dead meat and didn't even try getting back, so the throw goes to 1B and on the live ball appeal, that runner is out. Three outs.

Offense wants to confirm the run counts and asks PU, who says no, run doesn't count because the out at 1B was a force out. Teams starts to go a little cuckoo. I confer w/ PU, and he's adamant about his ruling. Finally, I told him that the exact scenario happened to my team when I was a player and he relented. But still, only after I told the manager of the team that was being wronged that he could file a protest that would be upheld.

PU relented and we continued. We discussed briefly after the game and I got one of those "I coulda sworn..." This guy is always quick with an opinion on just about any subject and gets testy with the players a lot. So I guess I was lucky he didn't take me out to the woods, beat me to death with a stick, and leave my body for the wild dogs.

At least these days, he's a bit more receptive to listening to my opinions of various scenarios or actual game events.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by k2explorer

A follow up question if I may. So I am the base umpire. I made the out call at first. three outs. The offensive team coach asks the plate ump if the run counted and he said yes. The other team didn't argue.

Do you think I should have gone up to the plate umpire and disputed his ruling? When the teams were changing sides I did mention to him I thought he was wrong. He assured me was right so I let it go as I didn't want to cause a scene on the field.

Thank you.

This is a touchy subject (as you will quickly find out). The last thing you want to do is get your partner in trouble by going in and "rescuing" him. Do that, and you might as well put chalk marks under the bus.

Try to get your partner's attention in a subtle fashion. Make eye contact with him, something. But whatever you do, don't ever let your first words to a partner be, "I think you're wrong."

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by ncasaump

this is a touchy subject (as you will quickly find out). The last thing you want to do is get your partner in trouble by going in and "rescuing" him. Do that, and you might as well put chalk marks under the bus.

Try to get your partner's attention in a subtle fashion. Make eye contact with him, something. But whatever you do, don't ever let your first words to a partner be, "i think you're wrong."

amen