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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 05:19pm
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Here is the picture 374 PhotoReflect - Antonio Morano Photography

and guess what: catcher has the ball.

Ejection.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 06:35pm
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Here is the picture 374 PhotoReflect - Antonio Morano Photography

and guess what: catcher has the ball.

Ejection.
Speaking ASA, unless everyone had tripped on her own feet and accidentally bumped into each other... Yep. Out. Ejected. And going through the sequence of pictures, it looks like the catcher sure got knocked for a loop. She spent a bit of time on the ground, and here's what appears to be a picture of her after the game. Yes, injuries will happen, but this just furthers my suspicion that this was a BS play.

I also saw this picture. Great positioning.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 06:56pm
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They don't crouch like that in the majors but I have seen a lot of major league umps at that angle. Saw TS at the angle yesterday too when runner was rounding 3rd base.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 07:23pm
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Here is the picture 374 PhotoReflect - Antonio Morano Photography

and guess what: catcher has the ball.

Ejection.
Blue, to be fair, that is a pic of the play just before the collision play. F2 has just caught a throw from outfield on a short fly.

On the play in question, base hit to center scored R1 and R2 is the colliding player. The throw was offline and up the 3rd base path.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 10:42pm
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Blue, to be fair, that is a pic of the play just before the collision play. F2 has just caught a throw from outfield on a short fly.

On the play in question, base hit to center scored R1 and R2 is the colliding player. The throw was offline and up the 3rd base path.
That may be, but for that kind of contact, I'd probably still have an ejection for USC. If the catcher had the ball before the collision, I'd also have an out. If I knew for certain the coach told her to do it, the coach is going with her.

End of the game or not, it appears to me that the kind of contact shown by these pictures do not belong in softball, and the consequences should not be ignored. Having seen the pictures of the catcher after the game only strengthens my belief that the contact wasn't just a bump, but more of a football-like tackle.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 08:18am
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Video clip

Here is a video clip from San Antonio fox news.

Look for the title Smithson Valley going to state 5/30/09

I'm leaning for UC.


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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 08:42am
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Here is a video clip from San Antonio fox news.

Look for the title Smithson Valley going to state 5/30/09

I'm leaning for UC.


KABB News Video on Demand
Now having seen the play, I've definitely got an out and an ejection. The catcher had the ball, the runner was, in my judgment, not hindered (I didn't see her slow down or deviate), and the runner clearly lowered her shoulder to bowl the catcher over.

Total BS play, coach. Your girl should have been tossed.
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Old Sun May 31, 2009, 10:31am
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Thanks for finding a video of the play. That is malicious contact and is covered by a the case book. Dead ball, out, and an ejection. Bad umpiring. No brainer.

Send the video to TASO so they can have a talk with the home plate umpire about what is malicious contact.

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Old Mon Jun 01, 2009, 08:08am
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terrible... just terrible.
MC... bye bye
coach running down the sidelines almost into the play... bye bye.
players out of the dugout during live ball without helmet and almost into play... bye bye.
sigh.
it was so bad i had to watch the tape 15 times.
then the player is on the news saying she 'had" to run thru the catcher.
I know a lot happened really fast. but, the plate umpire... what a nice guy.
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