Fielder crashing into runner.

[vcblue]

Speaking ASA this is not a crash this is a play. Per the rule book a crash can only be called on a runner who "crashes" in to a fielder with the ball.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by vcblue

Speaking ASA this is not a crash this is a play. Per the rule book a crash can only be called on a runner who "crashes" in to a fielder with the ball.

I think you're getting too hung up in the terminology. What's being described here is malicious contact. That's something that does not need to be defined by the book.

[CecilOne]

The "holding ball with glove and throwing hand against her chest" part is what looks like USC or malicious, not reaching out for tag.
But judgement might be that it was just clumsy or misreading the runner.

Originally Posted by CecilOne

The "holding ball with glove and throwing hand against her chest" part is what looks like USC or malicious, not reaching out for tag.
But judgement might be that it was just clumsy or misreading the runner.

I have trouble with those based on the distances I see in the OP. The angle of the play suggests possible USC or malicious.

[NCASAUmp]

Whether or not something was done with malicious intent is completely left up to the judgment of the umpire.

[GaryBarrentine]

Thanks Guys.

So there is no rule, per say, for a fielder crashing/colliding with a runner, except if the umpire determines it to be intentional or malicious and then it could be USC, correct?

Thanks again!

GaryB

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

I have trouble with those based on the distances I see in the OP. The angle of the play suggests possible USC or malicious.

Agree, just suggesting not universal b/w and some judgement, good choice of blue.

[MrRabbit]

Ok, so now what do you do with the runner ?

[youngump]

Originally Posted by MrRabbit

Ok, so now what do you do with the runner ?

I don't think the ball is dead for defensive USC. As long as things are settled runner isn't in need of immediate medical care, wait for the play to end. If you do end it early, then I think the right thing to do would be to place runners where they would have reached if not for the USC similar to how an obstruction dead ball is ruled.
As far as I know the rule book is silent on this. But somebody will be along to correct me soon enough if it isn't.
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[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by MrRabbit

Ok, so now what do you do with the runner ?

Well, if the tag was made, the tag was made. You have an out. Once everything is done, eject the offending player.