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Old Fri May 01, 2009, 11:17pm
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On the first throw by an infielder in NSA FP the award is two bases from the time of the pitch unless all runners, including the batter-runner, have advanced one base. If all runners have advanced one base at the time of the throw then the award is based on the runners location at the time of the throw.

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Old Sat May 02, 2009, 06:12am
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On the first throw by an infielder in NSA FP the award is two bases from the time of the pitch unless all runners, including the batter-runner, have advanced one base. If all runners have advanced one base at the time of the throw then the award is based on the runners location at the time of the throw.
Yes, that is correct. It is also exactly the same as the OBR ruling.

Not sure how it would pertain to the play in question, as the position of the runners at the time of the throw isn't mentioned.
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:05am
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Not sure how it would pertain to the play in question, as the position of the runners at the time of the throw isn't mentioned.
R2 slides into 2B and then F4 throws ball past F3
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:13am
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Under ASA?

What would be the ASA ruling? Time of pitch? OR Time of throw? I do not have access to a current ASA Rule or Case book.
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:31am
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What would be the ASA ruling? Time of pitch? OR Time of throw? I do not have access to a current ASA Rule or Case book.
Softball - NFHS, ASA, whatever (except apparently NSA) , TOT. TOP only on a pitch that goes dead.
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Old Mon May 04, 2009, 11:32am
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ASA would be time of throw (no first-play-by-infielder clause).

I'm wondering: did this ump have a long beard? Not only was the ruling exactly correct under YSISF rules, but the YSISF would also not consider this ruling protestable. (In fact, no ruling can be protested in YSISF.) This ump may be a recent immigrant who hasn't studied the Fed-ASA-YSISF Rules Differences pamphlet.

Let me know if he needs one. I'll send him a pdf.
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